Why does Hagler get a pass for never moving up in weight?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

You dont need to move up to great.

[-EX-]

Idk how people criticize Bernard because his best wins were over smaller men...but they don't dog Marvin who's best wins were against smaller men as well(Hearns, Duran)

Marvin beat better fighters than Bernard but they were smaller...

[jri9d0]

I think it's kind of a irrelevant thing to flaw an all time great in, if you really think about how many fighters never moved up and still solidified their greatness.

That said, look how many great fights Hagler gave us at 160 to begin with, it's not like he dodge the challenge when faced by other greats i.e. Leonard/Hearns ect.

[Toney616]

Not saying it's bad, but am I wrong for saying it should be a blemish on your legacy if you never do it?

Its basically a case of practicing what you preach, if its alright for smaller guys to move up and fight him then it should be alright for him to move up as well.

[infamous larryx]

Not saying it's bad, but am I wrong for saying it should be a blemish on your legacy if you never do it?

yea..i think your wrong

[NChristo]

Carlos Monzon never moved up. Doesn't mean they get a passed or takes away from their ATG's.

Was going to say the same thing :P, Monzon could of had some great fights if he moved up aswell, particularly with John Conteh, would of loved to see that.

[Devils Advocate]

I don't know why peopel think everyone needs to move up in weight. If he was naturally at his best at 160, which clearly he was, why in the hell would you want to move up in weight if he was such a dominating force at 160? That's a lot of guys downfall.

also, hagler wasn't tall like some of those other guys like hearns and SRL that could add pounds with little effect. hagler probably would have struggled if he put on 15 pounds with his body frame.

Marvin Hagler was 5'8 Ray Leonard was 5'10 and Hearns was 6'1. Just think if Hagler moved up he'd run into issues similar to Jeff Lacy to stocky to move and easy to hit.

[-EX-]

Marvin Hagler was 5'8 Ray Leonard was 5'10 and Hearns was 6'1. Just think if Hagler moved up he'd run into issues similar to Jeff Lacy to stocky to move and easy to hit.

Well he's 5'9 but height doesn't win fights...Marvin broke plenty of opponents down as well...

Don't ever compare Lacy to Marvelous...lol

[Devils Advocate]

Idk how people criticize Bernard because his best wins were over smaller men...but they don't dog Marvin who's best wins were against smaller men as well(Hearns, Duran)

Marvin beat better fighters than Bernard but they were smaller...

Hagler was 5'8 Hopkins was 6'1. Plus Hagler was fighting 15 round fights back then.

[RubenSonny]

Was going to say the same thing :P, Monzon could of had some great fights if he moved up aswell, particularly with John Conteh, would of loved to see that.

who you got in that fight? assuming he carried up the weight correctly i think conteh would have broke him down.