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  • Dave Rado
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    #21
    Originally posted by Lorily
    I thought he said they would count up the rounds won... I'm assuming that means the fighter with the most rounds won (in all 3 fights total) would take it.
    In more detail, the tiebreaker will be decided by:

    1.) Direct comparison of head to heads, if both fought against each other
    2.) If not, more KO wins in the tourney
    3.) If equal, the fighter with better scorecards (most rounds won)
    4.) If equal, coin toss

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      #22
      Originally posted by Lorily
      Personally I think Kessler should stick and move all night and coast to an easy UD, but that's not really his style.
      Isn't that what he did against Andrade?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        Isn't that what he did against Andrade?
        Yea, well he used some movement against Andrade (I need to rewatch that fight again to see for sure) but when I think of stick and moving all night, I'm thinking more on the lines of movement like Dirrell or FMJ, they hit or jab and get out and they know how to use the entire ring effectively and can fight going backwards very well. That's what I meant by not really Kesslers style. He's more of one to get in there and brawl and even though he uses some movement, it isn't comparable to what Andre and Floyd do in the ring. I think Kessler should know now, after facing (and losing to) Ward and also seeing that Green was doin the majority of the crafty holding in the Ward/Green fight (IMO), that Greens probably gonna want to make this a tough "in" fight. Kessler would do better for himself if he adopted Dirrell or FMJ style of movement for all 12 rounds and avoid engaging in brawl type of exchanges, because that's what Greens gonna need to do in order to have a chance of pullin off a K.O. Greens going to be fighting with some sense of desperation because he has to knock Kessler out just to get a chance of moving up to the semi finals. At the same time, Green (should) knows he needs to beat Kessler impresively or this could be the end of "Sweetness"s chances at anything big at the elite level. He has already made a joke of himself (in my opinion) in his one showing in this tournament. Even if he doesn't get the knock out, he still needs to win and do it in an impressive fashion if he want's to be taken seriously by any future fight prospects after the tourney.

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        • Iceta Lives
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          #24
          Divisions I would like to see this applied to are 140, 154, and 126.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            Divisions I would like to see this applied to are 140, 154, and 126.
            but u know 200 will be next in line...Team Sauerland is the main factor these kinds of tourneys are happening.

            Sauerland praises his 200 pounders, they say they have got the 3 best CWs in the world (Huck). Cunnigham was inked.

            Super6 is something that should have sent King Arthur Abraham to international stardom (fights in the US), also the middleweightdivision was dead (no fight w/ Sturm, promotional situation and no fight w/ Pavlik, he clearly ducked him. Kessler was inked.
            Last edited by cleaner147; 06-26-2010, 08:48 PM.

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              #26
              also both newcomers were very inactive before they were inked.
              Kess and USS are well known in Germany...

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                #27
                Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                That has to be the best fight left in this comp. Its gonna be great.
                I agree, but its between two guys who have no chance of winning the whole thing. That is why Im let down. The winner of the whole Super 6 will be a very boring fighter who wins in a very boring fight. The whole thing will end in a boring whimper rather then a ****. That and I think some of the judging has ruined it for me. This thing had so much hype, and has literally had only one entertaining fight so far.
                Last edited by Motofan; 06-26-2010, 08:59 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  In more detail, the tiebreaker will be decided by:

                  1.) Direct comparison of head to heads, if both fought against each other
                  2.) If not, more KO wins in the tourney
                  3.) If equal, the fighter with better scorecards (most rounds won)
                  4.) If equal, coin toss
                  OMG no way, please tell me that's not true !!

                  There must be a better option available than flipping a coin?

                  Couldn't they have included.....
                  4.) most jabs landed
                  or
                  4.) most power-shots landed

                  I would have even preferred a penalty shoot-out to a coin-toss

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Motofan
                    I agree, but its between two guys who have no chance of winning the whole thing. That is why Im let down. The winner of the whole Super 6 will be a very boring fighter who wins in a very boring fight. The whole thing will end in a boring whimper rather then a ****. That and I think some of the judging has ruined it for me. This thing had so much hype, and has literally had only one entertaining fight so far.
                    Aaaah OK sorry..... yep, I see your point.

                    But that's often the case with a round-robin competition in any sport.

                    Sometimes the best matches are during the round-robin stage.

                    And sometimes the best teams don't even make it to the finals.

                    Imagine if this happened.....

                    In a 140lb Super-6 comp..... Alexander cop's a wild swing from Maidana after dominating him for 11 rounds, and he never makes it to the final.....

                    so we miss out on a Alexander/Bradley fight

                    or.....

                    Bradley/Alexander fight in the semi's, but the winner get's injured later in training.....
                    so Khan win's the title by out-pointing the winner's late replacement Maidana.

                    Khan is now the 140 champ without having to face either Bradley or Alexander, coz he beat Maidana by avoiding him for 12 rounds and peppering him with jabs

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Motofan
                      I agree, but its between two guys who have no chance of winning the whole thing. That is why Im let down. The winner of the whole Super 6 will be a very boring fighter who wins in a very boring fight. The whole thing will end in a boring whimper rather then a ****. That and I think some of the judging has ruined it for me. This thing had so much hype, and has literally had only one entertaining fight so far.
                      What I like about this competition is that it forces all, ooops..... I mean, almost all of the top fighters to face off..... so for once the main focus is not on ABC belts, and what focus there is on ABC belts mainly exists because of compulsory unification opportunities, and compulsory defences.

                      Plus, ya gotta admit..... the winner of this competition is the man at 168 after walking the gauntlet against those 7 fighters.

                      Then..... there's Bute.

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