Do You Consider David Haye.......

**Boxing Scene** · 06-25-2010, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Squizz

A paper champion? I mean, seeing as Ruslan Chagaev didn't lose his belt in the ring, and Wladimir beat him, theoretically, shouldn't Wlad be the true WBA champ right now? And Haye hasn't exactly been helping his cause, fighting "mandatories" like John Ruiz and Audley Hairisson. I think he's a paper champion. At the very least, a weak champion, and easily the weakest of the current crop of HW's.

Everyone knows Wlad should be the champ. The WBA really screwed him in that fight without a doubt. They still haven't explained that one.

**Ben_London** · 06-25-2010, 04:43 PM

Weak alt.

**paulf** · 06-25-2010, 05:07 PM

I think of Haye as a boxer who currently holds a world title, not champ. Wlad is the unified WBO, IBO, IBF, and Ring titlist, he's the legit heavyweight champion of the world.

It was about time someone lifted that belt from Valuev, though. John Ruiz beat Valuev and got robbed in Germany. Even the german crowd booed when the winner was announced, so I think giving him a shot at the WBA belt was absolutely fair.

**Squizz** · 06-25-2010, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by braddman

Everyone knows Wlad should be the champ. The WBA really screwed him in that fight without a doubt. They still haven't explained that one.

I've been trying to figure it out for quite some time, myself.

**Heeb** · 06-25-2010, 05:11 PM

You got to beat a K brother to be a champ.

**da beatdown** · 06-26-2010, 10:49 AM

Haye is a ***** but he still is a champ,tho not the champ.But I cant really blame him cuz NOBODY is beating Wlad or Vitali, but He shouldnt have been poppin ish

**Mr. Philadel** · 06-26-2010, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Squizz

A paper champion? I mean, seeing as Ruslan Chagaev didn't lose his belt in the ring, and Wladimir beat him, theoretically, shouldn't Wlad be the true WBA champ right now? And Haye hasn't exactly been helping his cause, fighting "mandatories" like John Ruiz and Audley Hairisson. I think he's a paper champion. At the very least, a weak champion, and easily the weakest of the current crop of HW's.

David Haye "peeleft:?!?...uummmm

....who's that?

**Pirao** · 06-26-2010, 11:16 AM

Of course, Haye is the very definition of paper champion.

**shade darkar** · 06-26-2010, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by Squizz

A paper champion? I mean, seeing as Ruslan Chagaev didn't lose his belt in the ring, and Wladimir beat him, theoretically, shouldn't Wlad be the true WBA champ right now? And Haye hasn't exactly been helping his cause, fighting "mandatories" like John Ruiz and Audley Hairisson. I think he's a paper champion. At the very least, a weak champion, and easily the weakest of the current crop of HW's.

...............no

Do You Consider David Haye.......