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  • #51
    Originally posted by Ray* View Post

    Good for you and your facts, And the fact is Pacquiao lied, came out with different excuses and contradict himself on 8 different occassion and that to ME is su****ious enough.

    Good on him agreeing to whatever addition test that he agreed to but he lied,made childish excuses which normal people would question, Am one of those normal people so i questioned him..Period
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    • #52
      Originally posted by Ray* View Post

      Good for you and your facts, And the fact is Pacquiao lied, came out with different excuses and contradict himself on 8 different occassion and that to ME is su****ious enough.

      Good on him agreeing to whatever addition test that he agreed to but he lied,made childish excuses which normal people would question, Am one of those normal people so i questioned him..Period
      List the 8 excuses Manny gave.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Stone Roses View Post
        With random testing the athletes can be tested at any ****ing time without their knowledge. There is no bull**** cut-off which undermines the entire testing procedure.

        Pac fans are delusional. They got their head soo far up Pac's ass they've lost all sense of rationality.

        14-DAY CUT OFF, leaves a ****ing window for cheats.
        they shut down camp a week before the fight.

        they're taking a blood test right after the fight.

        they're taking a test before that 14-day cutoff.


        even if he was cheating , there's no freaking point.

        the end of camp is when they start slowing things down as far as training goes.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Stone Roses View Post
          Firstly. It is a step in the right direction.
          Secondly, if that offer is good enough now what was the problem the 1st time around.
          Thirdly, we don't even know if that "compromised" offer is even on the table anymore.

          Conclusion: Pac and Arum ****ed up big time.
          Step in the right direction would be to fully implement it into the sport of Boxing, not just because one fighter is scared of another.

          If the offer was good enough then why is it not good enough now?

          Mannys compromising to make the fight happen.. why would the offer be off the table. Doesn't Floyd want to fight?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by T.I. View Post
            Read ..


            According to his su****ion steroids are "best tapered" and basically stopped altogether outside of the testing window proposed for Mayweather-Pacquiao.

            Pac's refusal to test inside of 14 days actually contradicts the likely scenario put forth by Conte in which a fighter would take steroids throughout training and then taper off before the fight.

            According to Conte's theory, a doping Pac would be much more likely to get caught in a test 30 days away from the fight than he ever would 14 days away from it.
            Sorry. I missed the part where that had anything to do with RANDOM testing.

            As of now. We don't know if Floyd is still offering the 14-day cut off offer so this fight is ****ing ****ed.

            So we better hope Mayweather is still offering 14-days and pac agrees to give Mayweather the bigger share of the purse.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Stone Roses View Post
              Firstly. It is a step in the right direction.
              Secondly, if that offer is good enough now what was the problem the 1st time around.
              Thirdly, we don't even know if that "compromised" offer is even on the table anymore.

              Conclusion: Pac and Arum ****ed up big time.
              if it's a step in the right direction then why are you criticizing him for it.


              don't care if arum/schaeffer/pac/may screwed up negotiations. that's on them and they're the ones that's gonna lose millions of dollars.


              ****** PR work and failed negotiations doesn't make a man a cheater.

              especially one who agrees to additional testing.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Stone Roses View Post
                Sorry. I missed the part where that had anything to do with RANDOM testing.

                As of now. We don't know if Floyd is still offering the 14-day cut off offer so this fight is ****ing ****ed.

                So we better hope Mayweather is still offering 14-days and pac agrees to give Mayweather the bigger share of the purse.
                Cause it is random... and it cuts off 14 days before the fight. Reading comprehension.. you seem to lack it.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by T.I. View Post
                  Step in the right direction would be to fully implement it into the sport of Boxing, not just because one fighter is scared of another.

                  If the offer was good enough then why is it not good enough now?

                  Mannys compromising to make the fight happen.. why would the offer be off the table. Doesn't Floyd want to fight?
                  Mayweather is the one who is compromising. He wanted blood testing up to the day of the weigh in.

                  He settled for 14 days yet it was not good enough for ALMIGHTY Pacquiao.

                  I dont even care about this **** anymore. So many wasted hours posting about this subject and they haven't even sat at the negotiation table.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by T.I. View Post
                    Cause it is random... and it cuts off 14 days before the fight. Reading comprehension.. you seem to lack it.
                    LMAO. Whatever you say mate. Why not make it RANDOM testing with a 50 day cut off.

                    Cause that is just soo RANDOM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Stone Roses View Post
                      Sorry. I missed the part where that had anything to do with RANDOM testing.

                      As of now. We don't know if Floyd is still offering the 14-day cut off offer so this fight is ****ing ****ed.

                      So we better hope Mayweather is still offering 14-days and pac agrees to give Mayweather the bigger share of the purse.
                      Do you realize that real OST is done year round? 2 months of testing is not a real gauge or a real deterrent. 2 months before the floyd/manny fight both fighters could do whatever the **** they wanted.. and come for training camp 2 months before the fight and test clean.

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