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  • qwerty07
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    #61
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    If anybody is the crackhead here... Is you...

    With your dumbass post.
    Explain how, scientificallly, one guy (Hearns) who is 6'1'' weighing at 147 can punch significantly harder than another guy (P.Will) who is 6'1'' and weighs 147? If you're talking about different sports where they develop different muscles then I can understand, but we're talking about 2 boxers.


    Unless you think P.Will at WW punches harder than Cotto/Clottey...then you're a ******.

    Go ahead, smart guy, explain away...

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #62
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Do you think Floyd would of moved up?

      Do you think Oscar would of moved up?
      oscar mebbe...floyd, nope, and im a floyd fan. i think oscar would have moved up n lost, but the kids not a punk.

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      • Mushroom
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        #63
        Originally posted by qwerty07
        Explain how, scientificallly, one guy (Hearns) who is 6'1'' weighing at 147 can punch significantly harder than another guy (P.Will) who is 6'1'' and weighs 147? If you're talking about different sports where they develop different muscles then I can understand, but we're talking about 2 boxers.


        Unless you think P.Will at WW punches harder than Cotto/Clottey...then you're a ******.

        Go ahead, smart guy, explain away...

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        • jrosales13
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          #64
          Originally posted by qwerty07
          Explain how, scientificallly, one guy (Hearns) who is 6'1'' weighing at 147 can punch significantly harder than another guy (P.Will) who is 6'1'' and weighs 147? If you're talking about different sports where they develop different muscles then I can understand, but we're talking about 2 boxers.


          Unless you think P.Will at WW punches harder than Cotto/Clottey...then you're a ******.

          Go ahead, smart guy, explain away...
          P-Will might punch harder than Clottey. I actually think he does TBH. Now Cotto I don't know.

          However, what you talking about has nothing to do with power smart guy...

          Hernandez and Oscar were the same size at 135 yet Oscar hit harder.

          Oscar and Tito same size at 147 yet Tito the more dynamic puncher with both hands.

          You are born with punching power.

          Malignaggi is the same size as a lot of 140 pounders yet he won't punch as hard as them.

          Hearns he crazy power at 147 unreal. True freak of nature. Much more harder hitter than P-Will, Cotto, Pac, Mosely any WW today. Hell I would say he the more harder hitter than any fighter from 147-160.

          Is not like you can lift all this weights and then become a KO artist it doesn't work that way. You're born with the power. And, punching power is that last thin that leaves you. Your reflex, speed, stamina could all leave. But, the power will stay. The punching power would be the last thing to leave a fighter.

          Again punchers are born not made.
          Last edited by jrosales13; 07-10-2010, 08:49 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            P-Will might punch harder than Clottey. I actually think he does TBH. Now Cotto I don't know.

            However, what you talking about has nothing to do with power smart guy...

            Hernandez and Oscar were the same size at 135 yet Oscar hit harder.

            Oscar and Tito same size at 147 yet Tito the more dynamic puncher with both hands.

            You are born with punching power.

            Malignaggi is the same size as a lot of 140 pounders yet he won't punch as hard as them.

            Hearns he crazy power at 147 unreal. True freak of nature. Much more harder hitter than P-Will, Cotto, Pac, Mosely any WW today. Hell I would say he the more harder hitter than any fighter from 147-160.

            Is not like you can lift all this weights and then become a KO artist it doesn't work that way. You're born with the power. And, punching power is that last thin that leaves you. Your reflex, speed, stamina could all leave. But, the power will stay. The punching power would be the last thing to leave a fighter.

            Again punchers are born not made.
            right on the money once again...

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            • qwerty07
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              #66
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              P-Will might punch harder than Clottey. I actually think he does TBH. Now Cotto I don't know.

              However, what you talking about has nothing to do with power smart guy...

              Hernandez and Oscar were the same size at 135 yet Oscar hit harder.

              Oscar and Tito same size at 147 yet Tito the more dynamic puncher with both hands.

              You are born with punching power.

              Malignaggi is the same size as a lot of 140 pounders yet he won't punch as hard as them.

              Hearns he crazy power at 147 unreal. True freak of nature. Much more harder hitter than P-Will, Cotto, Pac, Mosely any WW today. Hell I would say he the more harder hitter than any fighter from 147-160.

              Is not like you can lift all this weights and then become a KO artist it doesn't work that way. You're born with the power. And, punching power is that last thin that leaves you. Your reflex, speed, stamina could all leave. But, the power will stay. The punching power would be the last thing to leave a fighter.

              Again punchers are born not made.
              This is why most people on this board are uneducated morons. You guys say stuff that has no basis in reality. There has never been a study to show that some people are born punchers.

              I'll say it again. It's scientifically impossible, you understand that, IMPOSSIBLE, for a guy with the same height and weight, training the same muscles to be significantly different in strength. Some guys pack more muscle in the legs, while some guys pack more muscle in the upper body, but if you knew anything about science, you would understand that punching power comes from the legs, to the core, and finally to the arms. Both Hearns and Williams has chicken legs.

              When you're 6'1'' and weigh the same as someone who is 5'8'', more muscle is spread throughout the body, therefore your muscle mass is less dense than a guy who's 5'8'', because he has less body volume to fill.

              Saying Hearns is a powerful puncher, just because he is, has no basis in reality. You can't just compare 2 videos and decide which ever one looks more impressive means he's better. That's not how science works.

              Basically, there is no substance behind the assumption that Hearns has some great KO power, just observations, fanboyism, nostalgia, underappreciation of modern boxers, and refusal to let go of the past.

              Edit: And you think Clottey, a guy who goes into the ring at 170, doesn't hit as hard as chicken legs Paul Williams? You're ****ing ****** if you think that. Martinez didn't even respect his power when they fought at MW! If they fought at WW, Clottey would easily overpower Williams.
              Last edited by qwerty07; 07-10-2010, 09:08 PM.

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                #67
                from all the pics ive seen of Thomas Hearns, hes VERY skinny, P. williams has a thicker body than hitman, This fight is gonna be a split decision either way

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                • qwerty07
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                  #68
                  Look at Hearns' skinny frame. Dude looks like he would get pushed around by Williams.



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                  • jrosales13
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by qwerty07
                    This is why most people on this board are uneducated morons. You guys say stuff that has no basis in reality. There has never been a study to show that some people are born punchers.

                    I'll say it again. It's scientifically impossible, you understand that, IMPOSSIBLE, for a guy with the same height and weight, training the same muscles to be significantly different in strength. Some guys pack more muscle in the legs, while some guys pack more muscle in the upper body, but if you knew anything about science, you would understand that punching power comes from the legs, to the core, and finally to the arms. Both Hearns and Williams has chicken legs.

                    When you're 6'1'' and weigh the same as someone who is 5'8'', more muscle is spread throughout the body, therefore your muscle mass is less dense than a guy who's 5'8'', because he has less body volume to fill.

                    Saying Hearns is a powerful puncher, just because he is, has no basis in reality. You can't just compare 2 videos and decide which ever one looks more impressive means he's better. That's not how science works.

                    Basically, there is no substance behind the assumption that Hearns has some great KO power, just observations, fanboyism, nostalgia, underappreciation of modern boxers, and refusal to let go of the past.
                    Hearns WW record was 31-1 with 30KO's.... Only one guy went the distance. One of those KO wins was against Pipino Cuevas. yea you right he didn't have any power His lone WW lost was to Leonard.

                    Originally posted by qwerty07
                    Edit: And you think Clottey, a guy who goes into the ring at 170, doesn't hit as hard as chicken legs Paul Williams? You're ****ing ****** if you think that. Martinez didn't even respect his power when they fought at MW! If they fought at WW, Clottey would easily overpower Williams.
                    Didn't Martinez get dropped in that fight?

                    P-Will also managed to KO Quintana out in 1 round. I repeat 1 round. Name a fighter that Clottey managed to KO in 1 round that was on Quintana level. Matter of fact just name any fighter I don't care.

                    Clottey couldn't even stopped a shot version, blown up LW version in Corrales. Even though Clottey was coming in 170 pounds.

                    Strength does not equal punching power.

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                    • baracuda
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                      #70
                      hearns would be way too big for pac....

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