Floyd Sr. In awe of Pac's accomplishments!

[| THE KING |]

Most boxing fans already knew this. Team mayweather is shook.. of little pacquiao. LOL!

[JK1700]

Floyd did the same. He's moved up just as many weightclasses as Pac, and continues to dominate. Does that mean he's on steroids? Only difference is thier styles. Floyd chooses to outbox his opponents, while Pac chooses to take them out.

But it's totally different. With Floyd, He's been dominating since 2000. He was destroying everyone at 130 before he had these hand problems and now his style relies more on accuracy and timing more than power. Pacquiao went from almost being knocked out by Oscar Larios to walking through Miguel Cotto. And that doesnt mean he is on anything but it seems strange that punch resistance can change so much in the space of like 2 years. Floyd was a power puncher at 130 when he was facing guys his size or smaller than him. Now he isnt knocking anyone out because of his hand problems and the fact that he is not a natural welterweight like Mosley, Baldomir and DLH. Back in 2008, Pacquiao could barely hurt guys like Barrera and Marquez. Now he is stunning guys like Cotto with one punch.

This just doesnt seem natural to me.

[Nuurzhaelan]

Its clearly a psychological tool to get into Pac's head. Do u really think there's a PED out there that will turn Pac into a wrecking machine in 2-weeks, then be flushed out of his system by fight night when Pac has volunteered to undero a non sanctioned blood test?

Pacquiao has never tested positive before...but previous tests have been dodged before by other athletes. PEDs have been shown to have a lasting effect when used for a protracted period of time. There have been so many arguments on both sides that I do not know what to believe anymore. The only thing I can believe is that it is possible that Pacquiao is really that great...and it is also possible that Pacquiao is on PEDs. His refusal to take the tests only strengthens su****ion of the latter.

Ariza's remarks, Roach's association (even if he did not administer or support it) with them and Pacquiao's position all detract from his clean image.

Mayweather would stand to get a TON of reputation if he managed to defeat Pacquiao...especially if he were proven later to be on PEDs.

Pacquiao would have the whole world, even the naysayers, supporting him if he fought his next bout (whomever it might be against) and had OST done; especially if he did it in a bout that did not include Mayweather. Then it would be obvious he simply did not want to cave to Mayweather's demands and it would also strengthen his defamation suit.

Right now...the bravery of Mayweather and the sterling image of Pacquiao are both in question. Each has something to prove, but neither man is yet willing to do so for pride or other, more clandestine motives.

[Va_BoriKua]

Manny is a catch weight fighter who always fights with some sort of an advantage. Once Floyd asks for testing now Floyds is the bad guy and it's his fault the fight isn't getting made. It is however, perfectly fine to ask for 10 mil for every pound over the weight limit, glove size, catchweights, etc.........

[Chups]

Manny is a catch weight fighter who always fights with some sort of an advantage. Once Floyd asks for testing now Floyds is the bad guy and it's his fault the fight isn't getting made. It is however, perfectly fine to ask for 10 mil for every pound over the weight limit, glove size, catchweights, etc.........

Pac had has much catchweight fights as Mayweather.

[ModernTalking]

Manny is a catch weight fighter who always fights with some sort of an advantage. Once Floyd asks for testing now Floyds is the bad guy and it's his fault the fight isn't getting made. It is however, perfectly fine to ask for 10 mil for every pound over the weight limit, glove size, catchweights, etc.........

Manny asking for 10mills for every pounds over is the same as if Floyd ask for 20mills if Pac test positive for steroid under the NSAC.

[| THE KING |]

Manny is a catch weight fighter who always fights with some sort of an advantage.

How many catch weight fights has Floyd had? Now tell me how many catch weight fights has Manny had? Let me help you out, they've both had 1. Difference being, Floyd couldn't make the contracted weight of 144.

Once Floyd asks for testing now Floyds is the bad guy and it's his fault the fight isn't getting made. It is however, perfectly fine to ask for 10 mil for every pound over the weight limit, glove size, catchweights, etc.........

Do you see Floyd as a cheater? If not, the 10.mil for every pound is irrelevant. That is just a preventative measure so Floyd won't cheat the scales like he did with marquez. Manny will have to pay the same fines if he comes in overweight.

Tell me what the glove sizes were for the majority of mayweathers fights? LOL!

[Deevel916]

I just find it ironic how in one breath, the Mayweathers belittle Pac by saying he's an unskilled one-dimensional boxer and would be easy work for Floyd, and in the next breath say that what's he's doing is extrodinary. Which one is it???

[Beater_of_ass]

But it's totally different. With Floyd, He's been dominating since 2000. He was destroying everyone at 130 before he had these hand problems and now his style relies more on accuracy and timing more than power. Pacquiao went from almost being knocked out by Oscar Larios to walking through Miguel Cotto. And that doesnt mean he is on anything but it seems strange that punch resistance can change so much in the space of like 2 years. Floyd was a power puncher at 130 when he was facing guys his size or smaller than him. Now he isnt knocking anyone out because of his hand problems and the fact that he is not a natural welterweight like Mosley, Baldomir and DLH. Back in 2008, Pacquiao could barely hurt guys like Barrera and Marquez. Now he is stunning guys like Cotto with one punch.

This just doesnt seem natural to me.

Its not natural for you, because you're ******. Manny simply got BETTER, why is this so hard for people to grasp. Go watch early Pac fights against Barrera, Marquez, Morales all Manny had was a straight left hand, nothing more. Manny has developed better footwork, more head movement, far better boxing ability, a solid right hand and now he's fighting at his natural weight. Also, when wasn't Pacman knocking people out? 2/3 Morales fights were stopped (TKO) Barrera/Pac was stopped in the 11th. The only guy he couldn't KO was Marquez and Manny put him on the canvas a total of 4 times almost 5.

Also when Manny was fighting at 126+ he was still coming into fight night at 144(ish) which is about where he fights now. So before roids were an issue he was weighing exactly what he weighs now, give a take a few pounds. Also his KO ratio might be higher now because he doesn't have to cut so much weight, when you cut weight you start taking away muscle especially when you are already in great shape. This would obviously take away from Manny's power as well as his technique not on the level it is now. So please shut the hell up about how its not natural at how the guy simply is getting better. Floyd got a lot better after the gift decision he got against Castillo, as for his power dropping off. It isn't because he doesn't have power or because he has weak hands, its simply because he doesn't throw enough punches. Manny throws 70+ punches a round, Floyd maybe 40-50 when you throw 20 more punches and possibly all power you are going to get more KO's, especially when the difference is over 100+ more punches Manny throws in a fight. If Floyd threw that many more punches in his fights against Marquez and Mosley he may in fact have got the KO, the difference is Manny does it and Floyd don't.

[madsweeney]

But it's totally different. With Floyd, He's been dominating since 2000. He was destroying everyone at 130 before he had these hand problems and now his style relies more on accuracy and timing more than power. Pacquiao went from almost being knocked out by Oscar Larios to walking through Miguel Cotto. And that doesnt mean he is on anything but it seems strange that punch resistance can change so much in the space of like 2 years. Floyd was a power puncher at 130 when he was facing guys his size or smaller than him. Now he isnt knocking anyone out because of his hand problems and the fact that he is not a natural welterweight like Mosley, Baldomir and DLH. Back in 2008, Pacquiao could barely hurt guys like Barrera and Marquez. Now he is stunning guys like Cotto with one punch.

This just doesnt seem natural to me.

Do me a favor, cut 20 or so pounds and take some punches to the dome. Then a couple weeks later take the same punches without cutting weight. If your punch resistance got better...you must be on roids.