Religion and boxing. Is it cool or not so much?

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  • dstew
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    #71
    Originally posted by Elbichogrande
    I hate all religion as I find them to be pathetic and a major waste of time. But I also know that religion and boxing is a contradiction. I doubt that the thing that "wrote" the ten commandments put no killing, stealing etc but I allow fighting? I also ask myself if when a fighter kills another, do they think "God" gave them the strength to do it, and are they happy with the fact that they just broke one of those commandments?
    Your first problem is that you're trying to make sense out of something (religion) that is inherently illogical.

    That said, as long as you keep your beliefs out of my life I couldn't really care less. Which is why I don't bat an eye about any athlete or celebrity proclaiming his faith every time a mic is in his face. And I'm definitely not going to sit around and waste my time trying to make sense out of it.

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    • Chuckguy
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      #72
      I just realized something
      NSB =Atheists
      wow

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      • SUPREME.
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        #73
        Originally posted by Merqui Sosa
        Discomfort for other people's proud religious beliefs is always rooted in self-hate and pathetic self-esteem.

        A real confidant established man is never made uncomfortable.
        Bingo.

        Why the hell are you worried about another mans religion for? If it makes you so tight, turn off the TV until round 1 starts.
        Pathetic.

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        • knn
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          #74
          Mike Tyson:
          "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. ... I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
          Can someone tell me whether this is just roid rage or some cult belief that Tyson belongs to?

          I always understood this (and maybe I was mistaken, please educate me) as some kind of ritual (that he learned in the all-male prison) where they praise Allah while performing gay sexual acts ("eat his children") which reminded me of orthodox ***s who perform what they call oral circumcision (= praising Jehovah while drinking penile blood):
          According to ***ish custom and traditions, newborn ***ish boys are ritually circumcised at eight days of age, and complications are generally very rare.

          However, a small number of Orthodox rabbis advocate an ancient practice in which the circumciser sucks the blood from the infant's circumcision wound until the bleeding stops, a ritual known as metzitzah.

          Is here anyone who can confirm that I am mistaken and Tyson does not belong to such a sect?
          Last edited by knn; 06-22-2010, 04:10 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by knn
            Mike Tyson:
            "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. ... I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
            Can someone tell me whether this is just roid rage or some cult belief that Tyson belongs to?

            I always understood this (and maybe I was mistaken, please educate me) as some kind of ritual (that he learned in the all-male prison) where they praise Allah while performing gay sexual acts ("eat his children") which reminded me of orthodox ***s who perform what they call oral circumcision (= praising Jehovah while drinking penile blood):
            According to ***ish custom and traditions, newborn ***ish boys are ritually circumcised at eight days of age, and complications are generally very rare.

            However, a small number of Orthodox rabbis advocate an ancient practice in which the circumciser sucks the blood from the infant's circumcision wound until the bleeding stops, a ritual known as metzitzah.

            Is here anyone who can confirm that I am mistaken and Tyson does not belong to such a sect?
            I think you are putting more into it as such. I just think it was Tyson being Tyson and hyping the fight. He sometimes said horrific lines. He had just learned about the ****** religion and that's probably why he put Allah in there.

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            • βetamax
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              #76
              I could less what anyone does with their religion as long as it isn't being used to help justify mistreating people.

              Hell, it probably even gives gives some fighters an edge. If you truly believe God has your back I think that could give someone a mental edge.

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              • Suckmedry
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                #77
                Lol, who cares? People can have whatever beliefs they want. Personally I'm a Catholic, I sometimes say a quick prayer to myself before I fight, just that I do my best, but sometimes I forget lol. I know I can ask God to help me do my best and help me focus, but the rest is down to me. I'm sure God has more important things to do than interfere with boxing.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by knn
                  Mike Tyson:
                  "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. ... I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
                  Can someone tell me whether this is just roid rage or some cult belief that Tyson belongs to?

                  I always understood this (and maybe I was mistaken, please educate me) as some kind of ritual (that he learned in the all-male prison) where they praise Allah while performing gay sexual acts ("eat his children") which reminded me of orthodox ***s who perform what they call oral circumcision (= praising Jehovah while drinking penile blood):
                  According to ***ish custom and traditions, newborn ***ish boys are ritually circumcised at eight days of age, and complications are generally very rare.

                  However, a small number of Orthodox rabbis advocate an ancient practice in which the circumciser sucks the blood from the infant's circumcision wound until the bleeding stops, a ritual known as metzitzah.

                  Is here anyone who can confirm that I am mistaken and Tyson does not belong to such a sect?
                  Tyson is just out there. He was talking trash, and already a bit of a loon to begin with.

                  Lewis had no kids at that time, and Tyson knew that. He even referenced that later as to make a comment about the "Lewis is gay" rumors.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by knn
                    Mike Tyson:
                    "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. ... I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
                    Can someone tell me whether this is just roid rage or some cult belief that Tyson belongs to?

                    I always understood this (and maybe I was mistaken, please educate me) as some kind of ritual (that he learned in the all-male prison) where they praise Allah while performing gay sexual acts ("eat his children") which reminded me of orthodox ***s who perform what they call oral circumcision (= praising Jehovah while drinking penile blood):
                    According to ***ish custom and traditions, newborn ***ish boys are ritually circumcised at eight days of age, and complications are generally very rare.

                    However, a small number of Orthodox rabbis advocate an ancient practice in which the circumciser sucks the blood from the infant's circumcision wound until the bleeding stops, a ritual known as metzitzah.

                    Is here anyone who can confirm that I am mistaken and Tyson does not belong to such a sect?
                    I can clear this up, I hope. I have a son, born in Israel, and as is our tradition, he was circumsized on the 8th day. The Mohel, (circumsizer) a deeply religious man as all these geezers are, carried out that function of taking a drop of blood from the wound. What he did was to use very narrow glass pipette to suck that drop up. It was too tiny to other than mildly coat a small lower part of the pipette. I was holding my son on my knee, and, although I couldn't bear to watch the act, I kept my eyes on theMohel and saw exactly what he did.

                    Speaking to him later, I asked him about this, since blood in any form is strictly forbidden to ***s. He said that there is a very ambiguous sentence in the Torah which, when interpreted by the Sages of ancient times, according the the traditions and customs, they worked out that this was the way to go, and at the same time they were carrying out the principle of the intention in the simplest way, even without really understanding why.

                    As a sidebar (which you probably don't want) meat over 3 days old is forbidden, and when meat is prepared, it must be made kosher. This is done by repeatedly soaking the item in water and washing all the blood away. Then is it exposed on a draining board for several hours, having been well salted on both sides,(salt sucks out blood) then finally washed off and ready to prepare as food.

                    Sorry folks for this long dissertation. It was just to clarify a few things which maay not be generally known.

                    I haven't yet figured out if it is permitted, when a boxer has a bleeding eyebrow, nose, or cut inside his mouth, (as Corrales had in one of his fights which caused a stoppage) and the blood runs into the mouth, whether this is excused or not.................??

                    (Maybe some interviewer will ask Foreman or Salita??)

                    This is common in *******, and ***s don't actually follow all, or even many, of the precepts in the Torah. The sages, many centuries ago, after discussing every word and every possible meaning that might be God's wish, would (sometimes after centuries of debate,) adopt a certain interpretation, and keep it. We actually live by the precepts of the Sages, therefore it is "Rabbinic Law".

                    Again.....sorry folks.

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