Whos #1 at super middle weight now? (POLL)

[oaklandstephen]

Lucian Bute - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3046&cat=boxer
or
Andre Ward - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1958&cat=boxer

edit: i probably should have added dirrell to the list.

[ИATAS]

Ward.

Beating Kessler/Green is better than Miranda/Andrade.

[BattlingNelson]

1: Ward
2: Kessler
3: Bute
4: Froch
5: Dirrell
6: AA

[GameGod]

Shocking poll, if Bute is on it most of the Super Six should be as well (+ there is no indication that Ward is the best for certain). Here are my rankings.

1. Andre Ward/Andre Dirrell: Both are unbeaten, although Dirrell against a higher quality of opponent - I would question whether Ward could beat King Arthur. However, due to Ward's dominaton over Kessler (who, after losing widely, still beat 27-0 Froch), I rank them evenly.
2. Arthur Abraham: Assuming King Arthur (35-0 with 30 KOs) is still at his top level, he will blast out Froch, but he may well have lost a lot of skill when Dirrell beat him comprehensively. Prior to the Dirrell fight, after watching Dirrell struggle but beat Froch I reckoned that King Arthur would smash him. Even Ward, after he beat Kessler, didn't look good enough to handle Abraham (perhaps Ward isn't - we'll find out in Ward vs. Dirrell).
3. Mikkel Kessler: Beat Froch, while both were fighting well.
4. Carl Froch: 26-0 with 19 KOs is a fabulous record, and he is a great fighter. Let's see how he stands with Abraham.
5. Lucian Bute: As good as Bute is, he would be ruined by 5 out of the 6 Super Six fighters. Particularly interesting would be Abraham, who would KO him mid-fight (Round 6), but Dirrell might get a late KO (Rounds 10-12) while Ward would win a lopsided UD. Kessler would win a convincing UD; Froch might win a closer, though still clear, UD.

[BattlingNelson]

Lucian Bute - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3046&cat=boxer
or
Andre Ward - http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1958&cat=boxer

Hey Steve. You where at the Green fight weren't you? Did you have a good time?


And now that you have first hand impressions of Green and Kessler watch your take on their match-up?

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

bute he has all the punches
ward smart, does what it takes, even some mma
abraham shell and power, nothing else
dirrell all the physical tools but the heart pumps kool aide
kessler basic and tough, will quit if allowed
froch tough and dirty, no skill set to be desired




















































green excuses to the hilt, but he can punch if u let him

[Guest]

That dumb German robot Kessler is the worst.

[Nick Name]

Lucian Bute is a better fighter without the shadow of a doubt.

Supersix tournament has given Ward the chance to fight the top contenders of his division. But in a fight Bute vs Ward, I sure wouldn't bet a cent on Ward.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

1: Ward
2: Kessler
3: Bute
4: Froch
5: Dirrell
6: AA

man u hate ward and think he uses peds in addition to hatton/mma style fighting.

htf do u have him numero uno?

[Guest]

Shocking poll, if Bute is on it most of the Super Six should be as well (+ there is no indication that Ward is the best for certain). Here are my rankings.

1. Andre Ward/Andre Dirrell: Both are unbeaten, although Dirrell against a higher quality of opponent - I would question whether Ward could beat King Arthur. However, due to Ward's dominaton over Kessler (who, after losing widely, still beat 27-0 Froch), I rank them evenly.
2. Arthur Abraham: Assuming King Arthur (35-0 with 30 KOs) is still at his top level, he will blast out Froch, but he may well have lost a lot of skill when Dirrell beat him comprehensively. Prior to the Dirrell fight, after watching Dirrell struggle but beat Froch I reckoned that King Arthur would smash him. Even Ward, after he beat Kessler, didn't look good enough to handle Abraham (perhaps Ward isn't - we'll find out in Ward vs. Dirrell).
3. Mikkel Kessler: Beat Froch, while both were fighting well.
4. Carl Froch: 26-0 with 19 KOs is a fabulous record, and he is a great fighter. Let's see how he stands with Abraham.
5. Lucian Bute: As good as Bute is, he would be ruined by 5 out of the 6 Super Six fighters. Particularly interesting would be Abraham, who would KO him mid-fight (Round 6), but Dirrell might get a late KO (Rounds 10-12) while Ward would win a lopsided UD. Kessler would win a convincing UD; Froch might win a closer, though still clear, UD.

I think you are selling Bute short. Bute's a tricky southpaw with power.
I think he's trouble for a lot of guys in this tourney.
Unfortunately we wouldn't know about that for a couple of years because Bute and his management couldn't or wouldn't, get in the tournament.

Oh and p.s Dirrell officially lost to Froch even though I had him up.