Super Six Bracketology

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  • jmah
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    Super Six Bracketology

    I wanted to make a thread about the tournament format itself and not necessarily the fighters and the matchups.

    Standings after Stage Two:

    1. A.Ward (4 pts, 2-0)
    2. A.Abraham (3 pts, 1-1, 1 KO)
    3. M.Kessler (2 pts, 1-1)
    4. C.Froch (2 pts, 1-1)
    5. A.Dirrell (2 pts, 1-1)
    6. A.Green (0 pts, 0-1)


    Stage Three fights:
    A.Ward v A.Dirrell
    A.Abraham v C.Froch
    M.Kessler v A.Green



    Andre Ward clinched a spot in the semi-finals

    With four points Andre Ward is leading at the end of the round robin second stage. He is through to the semis, but only that. With a loss to Dirrell, he could enter the penulitmate round as the fourth seed if Froch beats Abraham and Kessler can KO Green.

    Froch doesn't necessarily need a win to advance

    Pretend Green loses against Kessler, Dirrell loses to Ward, and Froch loses to Abraham. Green would be out of the running with no points, leaving Dirrell and Froch tied with two apiece. Froch would advance as he has a head-to-head win over Dirrell.

    Kessler holds a similar tiebreaker over Froch. If Kessler lost to Green (no KO), Froch lost to Abraham, and Dirrell lost to Ward, there would be a four-way tie for the last two spots. (Kessler, Froch, Dirrell, and Green would have two points each.) As none have extra points from knockouts, the head-to-head results have Green beating Kessler, who beat Froch, who beat Dirrell. I believe that Green and Kessler would advance as the third and fourth seed, respectively.


    Green not yet eliminated

    Improbable and unlikely given his late entry into the tournament and subsequent performance vs Ward, but there is an opportunity detailed above for Green to advance. He could also score a knockout vs. Kessler to get the extra point and put him above Mikkel. Mikkel. A loss from either Dirrell or Froch would then get him into the next round.


    WBC Super Middleweight title could leave the tournament

    Unless there's some weird circumstance that sees the WBA super middleweight champion stripped or unable to continue in the tournament, the title will be defended in the semifinals. There is a chance, however, that Green could lift the WBC title from Kessler yet fail to qualify for the next round. A decision win, for example, would net Green the WBA belt and two points, but Dirrell and Froch could advance with wins of their own, leaving Green the champion but out of the tournament. (Semi-finalists would be Ward, AA, Dirrell, Froch.)


    IIRC "rounds won" is one in the series of tiebreakers. I can't see them needing to use it, but if it comes down to it:

    Ward 59
    Dirrell 38
    Froch 32
    Kessler 31
    Abraham 29*
    Green 0

    *I think there was a 10-10 round on one of the scorecards for Abraham's fight vs. Taylor
    Last edited by jmah; 06-22-2010, 06:35 AM.
  • -PANDA-
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    if dirrell loses by decision and froch loses by KO which panda expects to happen they should let dirrell advance instead of froch given the controversy of their first fight or at least stage a rematch on neutral grounds

    froch has done nothing but complain and downplay other fighters' wins during this tournament

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    • led
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      #3
      Originally posted by -PANDA-
      if dirrell loses by decision and froch loses by KO which panda expects to happen they should let dirrell advance instead of froch given the controversy of their first fight or at least stage a rematch on neutral grounds
      yea. in that case, i like to see a rematch.

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      • SUPREME.
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        #4
        Terrific thread.
        Nice breakdown of the brackets.
        Green K.

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        • Devils Advocate
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          #5
          Originally posted by led
          yea. in that case, i like to see a rematch.
          yeah a rematch in a Neutral site should happen, they have unfinished business. If Green lifts the WBC title and is eliminated then the WBC becomes the most worthless title in the division. The winner of the super six vs Lucian Bute will be for the vacant lineal championship and of course HBO will package after letting Showtime do all the work.

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            #6
            Originally posted by led
            yea. in that case, i like to see a rematch.
            If Allan Green somehow not likley beats Kessler and is eliminated I be willing to bet that Arum pushes for a Pavlik/Green showdown almost immediately b/c A) Green will score his biggest pay day B) Green would now be considered a great tune-up with a title. C) Perfect set up for a Pavlik/Bute unification in time for the winner to face super six winner. But again Kessler will more than likely have his way with Green in Denmark

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            • Joeyzagz
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              #7
              Originally posted by jmah

              Froch doesn't need to win to advance

              Pretend Green loses against Kessler, Dirrell loses to Ward, and Froch loses to Abraham. Green would be out of the running with no points, leaving Dirrell and Froch tied with two apiece. Froch would advance as he has a head-to-head win over Dirrell.

              This is SO Frocking sweet!!!

              The above scenerio is very likely since Kessler is favored against Green and Ward is favored against Direll. Froch is gonna Advance no matter what! hahahahahha

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