Well clinching is an art. Those who do not know how to clinch get ktfo.
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Clinching should be illegal
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If I could do what Ward does I'd do it everyday, he was dishing out punishment and rendering Green completely helpless. He is an excellent tactician.
He is a boring fighter though. Dirrell is the only guy who can possible trouble him. Froch would at least be aggressive in the clinches against Ward and be able to match him for physical strength but that's it.
I'm not a fan but he is an excellent fighter. He just seems to eat up the clock. A Ward round disappears. Which is weird because they are boring rounds.
I doubt Ward loses for a long time.
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wat a lot of these guys wanna see is not boxing, is streetfighting. nonstop punching and nothin else. wat happened to all the boxing fans?? boxers have fought that way for centuries and now its a prolem???damn...smh
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Originally posted by cupocity303 View Post
Yeah, no reason to make it illegal.
Those who make a career out of clinching their way to victory will get punished a la John Ruiz, without a fan base and no big money fights.
See the Berto/Collazo fight.
Berto got docked a point after holding excessively for the first 2 rounds and thats why that fight became as good as it was. It forced Berto to actually fight.
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Originally posted by -Jack- View PostMayweather, Ward, Dawson, Berto and Dirrell would never even win a fight if they weren't allowed to hold excessively.
Ref's aren't hard enough on holder as they need to be. They should be deducting way more points than they do.
These fights are unwatchable.
Mayweather hold excessively.........are you ****ing bling???
did he hold against SSM or was Shane doing all the holding and pushing (bar rd 2). What about against JMM, was he holding there......HAtton?? Gatti? Judah??
Are u ****ing kidding me???
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postwat a lot of these guys wanna see is not boxing, is streetfighting. nonstop punching and nothin else. wat happened to all the boxing fans?? boxers have fought that way for centuries and now its a prolem???damn...smh
fanboys and bandwagoners who jump ship at the first loss or bad performance........these ****s don't understand boxing or it's history!!!!
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Originally posted by check hook View PostMayweather hold excessively.........are you ****ing bling???
did he hold against SSM or was Shane doing all the holding and pushing (bar rd 2). What about against JMM, was he holding there......HAtton?? Gatti? Judah??
Are u ****ing kidding me???
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postlol, do u guys watc boxing???clinching is part of the game. fighters who cant do it end up being limited, no matter how skilled they are. look at cotto. if he knew how to clinch, he wouldnt eat so many shots all the time. manny is the exception, altho it might hurt him once he fights floyd.
Thomas Hearns as good as he was had no idea how to clinch.........when he got in trouble this was a big big problem!!!
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