Intresting real business numbers from several fights(very intresting)

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  • bukakke
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    Intresting real business numbers from several fights(very intresting)

    Credit Dave Meltzer of the wrestling observer

    From this week’s Sports Business Journal on the two major big boxing matches. The Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey match which drew an announced crowd of 50,994 fans to Cowboys Stadium on 3/13 actually drew 41,483 fans, which was 36,371 paid and a gate of $6,359,985. The big difference between this gate and a Las Vegas gate for either UFC or boxing is that this is a real number of tickets sold mostly to fans. For UFC in Las Vegas, several thousand tickets for every show are sold to casinos who then give the tickets to high rollers as incentives to get them to stay at their hotels. For a huge boxing match, that’s even more. For the biggest fight so far this year, which was Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Shane Mosley on 5/1, the paid attendance at the MGM Grand Garden Arena was 14,038 and the gate was $11,032,100, but somewhere between 2,000 and 4,000 tickets were sold by the MGM Grand itself, and thousands of others were sold to other casinos. The number of actual people in the general public like boxing fans who buy tickets is not that large because of the price structure, since 4,800 seats were priced at $1,250 per ticket. There was another 6,712 fans paying $335,600 at the six closed-circuit locations in the city. So total numbers from ticket sales in Las Vegas were 20,750 sold tickets and $11,367,700. Mayweather earned $22.5 million and Mosley earned $6.75 million for the fight. What was even more notable is that you can put some of the biggest name boxers besides Pacquiao and Mayweather and if you take them out of Las Vegas where you have the casino buys, you can’t draw. For example, the 5/8 HBO fight with Paul Williams vs. Kermit Cintron at the Home Depot Center in Carson, CA, drew only 2,422 paid for $135,640, but with HBO footing the bill, the two main eventers shared a total purse of $1,765,000. For Vitali Klitshcko vs. Chris Arreola last year at the Staples Center, the actual paid was 7,647 and a gate of $868,330, but the two fighters shared a $2.9 million purse. Andre Berto vs. Carlos Quintana in Sunrise, FL drew 972 paid and $105,759, but the fighters shared a $1.25 million payday. The scariest number of all was last year’s Vic Darchinyan vs. Joseph Agbeko Showtime fight drew 11,772 in Sunrise, FL, which sounds great, until you find out the paid was 757 and gate was $52,503.


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  • Tiozzo
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    people don't care much about boxing anymore, aside of its biggest stars

    sad but true

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    • RSBonos
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      Its not that people don't care, its more do to do with lazy inactive fighters and lazy promoters only relying on HBO money. Imagine if HBO quit broadcasting boxing, talk about reality check.

      Funny that Meztler doesn't mention anything about the UFC papering almost all their Las Vegas crowds and still not selling out.

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      • bukakke
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        Originally posted by RSBonos
        Its not that people don't care, its more do to do with lazy inactive fighters and lazy promoters only relying on HBO money. Imagine if HBO quit broadcasting boxing, talk about reality check.

        Funny that Meztler doesn't mention anything about the UFC papering almost all their Las Vegas crowds and still not selling out.
        He mentions that UFC also benefits from casino buys.

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        • Bhopreign
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          LOL so the average ticket price for Pac/Clottey was $175 at that price in that new beautiful arena if Pac was so popular and a draw he should be able to bring in 100k. Floyd's ticket prices have been 25k for some seats. This guy isnt what people think he is.

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          • warp1432
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            #6
            Where did this guy get his numbers from? That people "actually bought" I'm not buying it.

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            • revs1227
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              #7
              i belive this but
              you forget fighters who sell tickets
              pac cotto sold out mgm
              hatton pacquiao sold out mgm
              cotto forman 22,000 at yankee stadium
              some fighters do sell tickets
              imo when it comes to selling tickets
              hatton was the mannnnnnn

              tickets are just overpriced theses days
              thats all there is to it
              the casual fan can not afford 1,000$ ticket to see a ***ing fight and its not worth it

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              • bukakke
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                #8
                Originally posted by warp1432
                Where did this guy get his numbers from? That people "actually bought" I'm not buying it.
                Sports journal magazine and people who work at arenas.

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                • Heru
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tourlou82
                  people don't care much about boxing anymore, aside of its biggest stars

                  sad but true
                  Fernando Guerrero (A Dominican Republic native), a prospect, has consistently sold 5000-6000+ tickets, since he had around 10 fights.

                  Boxing has lost a lot of luster as a whole, but individual boxers are carrying it until the rough patches past.

                  That Metzler character had the UFC's **** in his mouth. He tried to appear non-biased, but it was apparent. Why didn't he talk about Affliction, WEC, or Strikeforce numbers? I wonder...

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                  • bukakke
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                    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                    Fernando Guerrero (A Dominican Republic native), a prospect, has consistently sold 5000-6000+ tickets, since he had around 10 fights.

                    Boxing has lost a lot of luster as a whole, but individual boxers are carrying it until the rough patches past.

                    That Metzler character had the UFC's **** in his mouth. He tried to appear non-biased, but it was apparent. Why didn't he talk about Affliction, WEC, or Strikeforce numbers? I wonder...
                    Umm he does, but I only posted the boxing numbers cause its whats relevant to this forum.

                    BTW, Meltzer works for Yahoo, not the UFC. Hes covering tonights boxing match so he knows his stuff.

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