Sergio Martinez: All looks, No brains.

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  • Walt Liquor
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    #41
    Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
    This makes alot of sense. I didn't look at it from that angle, but looking at it, it does make sense. Problem with that is if May/Pac does go as planned it leaves Sergio out in the cold . I mean he could easily get a fight with Strum, but Strum has been irrelevent every since ODH robbed him.
    he can't easily get a fight with sturm. sturm only fights non threatening euros.

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    • ThunderWolf
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      #42
      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
      You don't watch much boxing do you?
      In our country, only potential contenders for Pacquiao and super popular fighters like Pavlik are shown live, and PPV are for rich peeps. So there`s nothing we can do about it.

      Your understanding of people and potential situations should be broader.

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      • JmH Reborn
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        #43
        I too would have kept the MW title, just for pride and heritage alone

        It was his greatest accomplishment and he deserves to keep it. He has said the MW title means alot to him and his people...so why ****ting on him? I think being the 160 champ will open plenty of doors if he keeps winning.

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        • oc9979
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          #44
          belts do not mean ****!!
          vacant WBC Margarito vs Cintron.
          1 does not have a license and the other one lost 2 fight vs Margarito

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #45
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            Burner,

            Are you serious? You think Bob would put Cotto in with Sergio?

            And he obviously still gets plenty props trying to fight at 154 as the RIng Champion at 160. Bad thread. Plus I'm sure Carlos Monzon being the WBC MW champ had nothing to do with it....
            How is it a bad thread? You dont get the point I'm making here?

            He couldve dropped the WBC belt and still been the ring champion and he wouldnt have to fight Zbik, a bum.

            Had he dropped the 160 Pound belt. It wouldnt even matter. Hell Chavez Jr. has a chance to be a WBC 154 Pound Champion. The ring and Lineal is what Martinez still wouldve been. Now hes stuck fighting a **** mando. It was a dumb ass decision.

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            • ThunderWolf
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              #46
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              How is it a bad thread? You dont get the point I'm making here?

              He couldve dropped the WBC belt and still been the ring champion and he wouldnt have to fight Zbik, a bum.

              Had he dropped the 160 Pound belt. It wouldnt even matter. Hell Chavez Jr. has a chance to be a WBC 154 Pound Champion. The ring and Lineal is what Martinez still wouldve been. Now hes stuck fighting a **** mando. It was a dumb ass decision.
              I agree, this aint a bad thread, but I still think that defeating The Ghost made martinez more marketable even if he drops down again to 154, title or no title. Lineal and Ring titles have already been earned and will never be taken away as his achievements, and he will earn more now in the future by taking the good decision and risk of fighting and defeating Pavlik.

              In other words, he has become more popular, and there has never been more clamor for a Floyd-Martinez fight until after that victory.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #47
                Originally posted by ThunderWolf
                I agree, this aint a bad thread, but I still think that defeating The Ghost made martinez more marketable even if he drops down again to 154, title or no title. Lineal and Ring titles have already been earned and will never be taken away as his achievements, and he will earn more now in the future by taking the good decision and risk of fighting and defeating Pavlik.

                In other words, he has become more popular, and there has never been more clamor for a Floyd-Martinez fight until after that victory.
                Thing is though, considering hes not a draw. Is tat the 154 Pounders now have no incentive to fight him. He has no belt and hes not a draw and will lose his ranking at that weight class.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Thing is though, considering hes not a draw. Is tat the 154 Pounders now have no incentive to fight him. He has no belt and hes not a draw and will lose his ranking at that weight class.
                  Yet he can still fight Cotto and any champion at 154 because rankings are only important for mandatory challengers, which are only required once a year. He can fight any champion at any weight if they both agree, especially now that he`s become a PPV draw after Pavlik, right?
                  Last edited by ThunderWolf; 06-17-2010, 09:02 AM.

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                  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ThunderWolf
                    Yet he can still fight Cotto and any champion at 154 because rankings are only important for mandatory challengers, which are only required once a year. He can fight any champion at any weight if they both agree, especially now that he`s become a PPV draw after Pavlik, right?
                    I dont think hes a PPV draw after beating Pavlik. He slowly making a name for himself. Him having that starp at 154 wouldve gotten people like Williams, Cotto or Angulo interested in a fight. But he just pulled a weird move.

                    Basically passing on Williams and Dzinziruk for Zbik?

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