Puerto Rico's P4P Top 10 ATG's

[peyk-peyk]

El C@cique@PR, can you do a top 10 for the following countries:

Cambodia
India
Mongolia
North Korea
Laos
Iran
Sweden
Turkmenistan
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Thanks in advance homie!

^^^^^

that's funny **** comrade.

[ChampBox@PR]

Oh well. It's your personal list. No problems. I just thought that personally I would move those 2 ahead of ivan and miguel. it's too early to gauge at this point for both fighters.

just beating duran for de jesus was like la motta to SRR for me. Lolz. Albeit Duran was still relatively approaching prime when he met de jesus the first time.

Vasquez -- 3 weight champion. and a road warrior at that. I forgot how many years he fought overseas but ironically lost a razor thin decision when he finally went back to fight in PR .

Good stuff mate. Like you said it about opinions, I surely can apreciate yours!

[jrosales13]

18 defenses, and yes both weight clases!!



Wilfredo is my #11, esteban De Jesus, could be in it too!!!

I agree with Tesla that both Vazquez and DeJesus are in there and probably>Calderon TBH....

But, anyways counting both weight-class :

But, even if you do he only has 17 just like Tito if you count Tito both weight-classes. I had to go look this up. These are his title defenses

1. Lorenzo Trejo
2. Alex Sanchez
3. Roberto Levya
4. Carlos Fajardo
5. Noel Tunacao
6. Gerardo Verde
7. Daniel Reyes
8. Isaac Bustos
9. Miguel Tellez
10. Jose Luis Varela
11. Ronald Barrera
12. Juan Esquer
13. Nelson Dieppa
14. Hugo Cazares
15. Rodel Mayol
16. Rodel Mayol
17. Jesus Irrebe

And, one of those title defenses was a draw. I guess you can count that as a successful title defense. But, anyways who am I missing who is the 18th?

Tito don't have to look this up and is not in order. But, I know every single title defense he has. And, he did it with no draws all of them were wins.

1. Garcia
2. Stephens
3. Camacho
4. Carr
5. Campas
6. Pendleton
7. Zulu
8. Lueshing
9. Lovato
10. Barnes
11. Moore
12. Turner
13. Whitaker
14. Pineda
15. Oscar
16. Thiam
17. Vargas.

So Calderon does not have the most title defenses out of all the Puerto Ricans he shares that with Tito. And, Tito has all win no draws so I would give that edge to Tito. So IMO Tito holds that record since it is all wins.

I don't know man, is your opinion. But, I would have Torres, Vazquez, DeJesus, Camacho Cotto>Calderon maybe even DeLeon. So Calderon probably wouldn't have made my top 10. But, that is my list. Your list is still pretty good.

[tesla_power]

I agree with Tesla that both Vazquez and DeJesus are in there and probably>Calderon TBH....

But, anyways counting both weight-class :

But, even if you do he only has 17 just like Tito if you count Tito both weight-classes. I had to go look this up. These are his title defenses

1. Lorenzo Trejo
2. Alex Sanchez
3. Roberto Levya
4. Carlos Fajardo
5. Noel Tunacao
6. Gerardo Verde
7. Daniel Reyes
8. Isaac Bustos
9. Miguel Tellez
10. Jose Luis Varela
11. Ronald Barrera
12. Juan Esquer
13. Nelson Dieppa
14. Hugo Cazares
15. Rodel Mayol
16. Rodel Mayol
17. Jesus Irrebe

And, one of those title defenses were a draw. I guess you can count that as a successful title defense. But, anyways who am I missing who is the 18th?

Tito don't have to look this up and is not in order. But, I know every single title defense he has. And, he did it with no draws all of them were wins.

1. Garcia
2. Stephens
3. Camacho
4. Carr
5. Campas
6. Pendleton
7. Zulu
8. Lueshing
9. Lovato
10. Barnes
11. Moore
12. Turner
13. Whitaker
14. Pineda
15. Oscar
16. Thiam
17. Vargas.

So Calderon does not have the most title defenses out of all the Puerto Ricans he shares that with Tito. And, Tito has all win no draws so I would give that edge to Tito. So IMO Tito holds that record since it is all wins.

I don't know man, is your opinion. But, I would have Torres, Vazquez, DeJesus, Camacho Cotto>Calderon maybe even DeLeon. So Calderon probably wouldn't have made my top 10. But, that is my list. Your list is still pretty good.

Great pre. Sorry I can't give you green. It always say I must spread it around. I must not be greenk'ing people enough. hehehe.

[ericsantos]

In my opinion Esteban De Jesus accomplish something that no ther Boricua did, He beat one of the ATG at his prime in Roberto Duran what else compares to that. He will always be known to be the man who gave Duran his first defeat and thats back when Duran was at the top of his game.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Copy and paste and nuthuggery.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Fantastic]

C@cique@PR;8639386]1.Wilfre[/email]do Gomez - 44-3-1(42KOs)
2.Wilfred Benitez - 53-8-1(31KOs)
3.Felix Trinidad 42-3-0(35KOs)
4.Carlos Ortiz - 61-7-1(30KOs)
5.Ivan Calderon 34-0-1(6KOs)
6.Jose Torres 41-3-1(20KOs)
7.Hector Camacho 79-6-3(38KOs)
8.Carlos De Leon 52-8-1(32KOs)
9.Edwin Rosario - 47-6-0(41KOs)
10.Miguel Cotto - 35-2-0(28KOs)

Calderon is way too high. His opposition sucks compared to the other guys.

[Tamis!]

Vasquez Sr. need to be at least inside the top 10.

But all good different strokes...

[freakzilladark]

you forgot John John Molina.
and Jonathan Andres Amaro is not bad either

[handwraps]

C@cique@PR;8639386]1.Wilfre[/email]do Gomez - 44-3-1(42KOs)
2.Wilfred Benitez - 53-8-1(31KOs)
3.Felix Trinidad 42-3-0(35KOs)
4.Carlos Ortiz - 61-7-1(30KOs)
5.Ivan Calderon 34-0-1(6KOs)
6.Jose Torres 41-3-1(20KOs)
7.Hector Camacho 79-6-3(38KOs)
8.Carlos De Leon 52-8-1(32KOs)
9.Edwin Rosario - 47-6-0(41KOs)
10.Miguel Cotto - 35-2-0(28KOs)

id have calderon a little lower definately under cotto but thats just my opinion.