santos vs margarito ..did santos win?

[IwatchBoxing]

from the horses mouth!

The fight nobody seems to want.


“The best (the WBO) can do is give us a straight rematch vs. Santos,” said Margarito’s manager Sergio Diaz. \'\'We don\'t really need Santos. They need us. We should have been given the decision last time out, and seeing how their styles just don\'t mesh-up, we don\'t see an upside of going for a third fight against him. When Margarito fought Santos in the rematch, he (Santos) was already a light heavyweight, and he still nearly dropped Santos a couple of times. That should have been more than enough for Tony to win.


“We were looking more along the lines of reversing the decision, or getting a draw on the record at worst. That could have spring boarded us to a showdown vs. another of the 154 champions (the undisputed world super welterweight champion Winky Wright, or IBF champion Kassim Ouma).”

Seems like Puerto Ricans allways have a weight issuse, or fixed gloves.

[Sir_Jose]

On the same night, WBO Super Welterweight Champ Daniel Santos retained his Title in front of his fans in San Juan, P.R. winning a Split Decision over WBO Welterweight Champion Antonio Margarito in a very close fight that was stopped due to a nasty cut suffered by Margarito. After a head butt caused the cut over Margarito's right eye in the sixth round, the ringside doctor was keeping an eye on him. By the start of the tenth, the cut had graduated to a serious gash and the referee stopped it. Margarito looked like he?d be needed about 20 stitches. For the first time in eight years, Margarito lost a fight.

Margarito was clearly angered at the stoppage but it was the ringside doctor's call. They went to the scorecards. One Judge had it 86-85 Margarito; the other two had it 87-84 and 86-85 for Santos.

This was actually a rematch of their incomplete fight from 2001, where a head butt in the first round caused the referee to stop it. It was deemed a No Contest. Their battle on Saturday night was something of de ja vu for Margarito. This fight was stopped due to another head butt in the same place on the same man. It was close, I had Margarito ahead 87-86 at the time of the stoppage. Take away that cut and this fight probably goes to Margarito. But then again, considering that they were fighting in Santos' home country, who knows?

Santos is a very good fighter but he looked to be taking the most punishment from Margarito. The blood flowing from above Margarito's right eye was not reflective of who was getting beat up. Santos style shifted from boxer to slugger as Margarito dictated the terms of engagement. Santos gave a respectable account of himself slugging but definitely lost most of those close exchanges in my eyes. Margarito tends to lead with his head as he comes in and that, to me, accounted for the numerous head butts.

Overall, Margarito was the aggressor; he was busier and showed the better ring generalship. Santos scored at a higher percentage but at a lower volume. Santos never bled nor did his face ever swell up. Looking at the two men after the stoppage, one could easily assume the wrong guy did the most scoring.

The Punch Stats
Santos -- Margarito
148... Landed ...178
419... Thrown ...639
35%... Percent ...28%

After waiting three years to see this rematch, it's disappointing that it ended this way. It was a good match up with Margarito ever pressing forward relentlessly and Santos, using his legs and sneaky hooks to land the cleaner shots. Margarito always worked the body and drew Santos into places he didn't want to be. Santos eventually made some adjustments and boxed more from the outside in the later rounds with good results. Margarito was imposing his will on Santos. If it weren't for all the head butts in this fight, I think Margarito would have pulled out the win?that is, if the Judges could honestly score the fight. It's doubtful they'll ever fight again, why would they?

After all, Margarito gets to keep his 147-pound Title and Santos keeps his 154-pound Title. Strange, but true.

Basicly, they think Margarito did better, cause he seemed to make more damage, by a point, LOL, clearly when looking at the perdictions, everybody was rooting for Margarito to win, maybe alittle bitter. Fight should of been stoped 4 RD's before they did stop it. They were nice to him, in Puerto Rico, Santos changed his style, cause he didnt respect his power!

Did you actually read that article before you posted it?

Becuae it pretty much just went agisnt everything you just said. Let me get this straight in oreder to prove your point you post an article that has the exact opposite opinion of the one you have.

way to go killer.

That article pretty much summed it up. Margarito was busier, Landed the harder shots, Dictated the pace of the fight, Imposing his will. Dont forget to mention how Santos came in at like 172 for a Jr Middleweight fight and was still getting rocked.

I guess all the mebers of the boxing media and the whole HBO crew are just a bunch of biased, bitter Mexicans who just had it out for Santos huh.

Id go on, but you just killed your own argument by posting that.

[Sir_Jose]

Im looking to make a nice gif out of it.

Its because of of people like you who put 8x10 pictures in there sigs were not gonna be allowed to have them anymore.

[IwatchBoxing]

Did you actually read that article before you posted it?

Becuae it pretty much just went agisnt everything you just said. Let me get this straight in oreder to prove your point you post an article that has the exact opposite opinion of the one you have.

way to go killer.

That article pretty much summed it up. Margarito was busier, Landed the harder shots, Dictated the pace of the fight, Imposing his will.

I guess all the mebers of the boxing media and the whole HBO crew are just a bunch of biased, bitter Mexicans who just had it out for Santos huh.

Id go on, but you just killed your own argument by posting that.

Thats how you see it, this is best I can do with all this favorism, it shows the fight was extremely close, and you could see that they say "in their opinion", I dont mind looking into both sides of an arguement, no problem bro.

[-Spectre-]

I think Margarito won the fight. Santos might be from my country but he's still crap. I'd bet on Margarito over Santos any day.

[Famoso Matador]

Basicly, they think Margarito did better, cause he seemed to make more damage, by a point, LOL, clearly when looking at the perdictions, everybody was rooting for Margarito to win, maybe alittle bitter. Fight should of been stoped 4 RD's before they did stop it. They were nice to him, in Puerto Rico, Santos changed his style, cause he didnt respect his power!

I disagree I think that the reason Margarito did not win was because the fight was at puerto rico. And if i remember right, when i saw the fight they made a comment as to why Santos changed his style, and it was because his camp wanted him to look like a slugger and be more entertaining so that he can get bigger fight$.

[Famoso Matador]

Its because of of people like you who put 8x10 pictures in there sigs were not gonna be allowed to have them anymore.

I made a gif now, though i need a better Gif making program. Ive yet to hear of anyone threatning to remove the sigs. If the sigs were to be banned at all i would assume it would be cause they were offensive to someone.

[pride]

Margarito won, deal with it.

The entire HBO crew had him up at the end of the fight.

plain and basic common sense fact just like hbo had castillo beating mayweather.

[Dorian]

margarito sucks....who cares

[C'MONMANG']

On the same night, WBO Super Welterweight Champ Daniel Santos retained his Title in front of his fans in San Juan, P.R. winning a Split Decision over WBO Welterweight Champion Antonio Margarito in a very close fight that was stopped due to a nasty cut suffered by Margarito. After a head butt caused the cut over Margarito's right eye in the sixth round, the ringside doctor was keeping an eye on him. By the start of the tenth, the cut had graduated to a serious gash and the referee stopped it. Margarito looked like he?d be needed about 20 stitches. For the first time in eight years, Margarito lost a fight.

Margarito was clearly angered at the stoppage but it was the ringside doctor's call. They went to the scorecards. One Judge had it 86-85 Margarito; the other two had it 87-84 and 86-85 for Santos.

This was actually a rematch of their incomplete fight from 2001, where a head butt in the first round caused the referee to stop it. It was deemed a No Contest. Their battle on Saturday night was something of de ja vu for Margarito. This fight was stopped due to another head butt in the same place on the same man. It was close, I had Margarito ahead 87-86 at the time of the stoppage. Take away that cut and this fight probably goes to Margarito. But then again, considering that they were fighting in Santos' home country, who knows?

Santos is a very good fighter but he looked to be taking the most punishment from Margarito. The blood flowing from above Margarito's right eye was not reflective of who was getting beat up. Santos style shifted from boxer to slugger as Margarito dictated the terms of engagement. Santos gave a respectable account of himself slugging but definitely lost most of those close exchanges in my eyes. Margarito tends to lead with his head as he comes in and that, to me, accounted for the numerous head butts.

Overall, Margarito was the aggressor; he was busier and showed the better ring generalship. Santos scored at a higher percentage but at a lower volume. Santos never bled nor did his face ever swell up. Looking at the two men after the stoppage, one could easily assume the wrong guy did the most scoring.

The Punch Stats
Santos -- Margarito
148... Landed ...178
419... Thrown ...639
35%... Percent ...28%
After waiting three years to see this rematch, it's disappointing that it ended this way. It was a good match up with Margarito ever pressing forward relentlessly and Santos, using his legs and sneaky hooks to land the cleaner shots. Margarito always worked the body and drew Santos into places he didn't want to be. Santos eventually made some adjustments and boxed more from the outside in the later rounds with good results. Margarito was imposing his will on Santos. If it weren't for all the head butts in this fight, I think Margarito would have pulled out the win?that is, if the Judges could honestly score the fight. It's doubtful they'll ever fight again, why would they?

After all, Margarito gets to keep his 147-pound Title and Santos keeps his 154-pound Title. Strange, but true.

Basicly, they think Margarito did better, cause he seemed to make more damage, by a point, LOL, clearly when looking at the perdictions, everybody was rooting for Margarito to win, maybe alittle bitter. Fight should of been stoped 4 RD's before they did stop it. They were nice to him, in Puerto Rico, Santos changed his style, cause he didnt respect his power!

I think the high lighted parts pretty much sum this one up!