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    Comments Thread For: Calderon vs Casimiro on August 28 in Puerto Rico

    If unbeaten Filipino Johnriel Casimiro beats Ramon Garcia on July 3 in Baja California, Mexico, he will get his mandatory shot at WBO junior flyweight champion Ivan Calderon on August 28 in Puerto Rico, says Puerto Rico Best Boxing Vice President Peter Rivera. [Click Here To Read More]
  • 5burowz
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    Calderon has ZERO interest in fighting the best in his division. He did the same thing at 105. He'll never fight Viloria, Solis, Segura, etc. And he's always blaming these other fighters for not wanting to fight him. Well, I know better. I've done the research.

    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11772 --instead of fighting Solis in March of 08, he fought Nelson Dieppa. Calderon had been wanting to fight Dieppa for years and he finally got him...when he was on the downside of his career. Dieppa was 37 when he finally got in the ring with Ivan. Plus, Dieppa is also Puerto Rican which means it was probably an easier fight to make i.e. everything on Ivan's terms. Ivan avoided a real challenge from Solis at this time and instead fought a guy who was past it. Ivan could've fought a guy in his prime but chose to do things the easy way. And it's not like Solis didn't want the fight; he was even willing to have the fight in Puerto Rico.


    http://fightfan.com/2009/05/quick-jabs-3/ --Calderon says he wants Viloria if successful against Mayol. Well, we all know why a second fight with Mayol took place, but why not fight Viloria after the 2nd Mayol fight?? Viloria certainly can't be afraid of Calderon as he already beat him twice in the amateurs. Oh, I know, because it's not enough to fight an unranked opponent in Mayol once, but he needs to do it twice. I guess because Solis lost to Viloria, that's why Ivan never fought him? Because he all of the sudden became unviable? Viloria also seemed willing to fight Ivan, but Ivan instead chose to fight Mayol. And when Viloria lost to Tamara, well, I guess he was no longer viable either.


    http://www.badlefthook.com/2007/1/4/15167/89428 -- Once again, Rachmann was willing to fight in Puerto Rico. And, why is Calderon fighting the OLDER fighters in this div. instead of the younger, better fighters? Rachmman was 36 at the time. Dieppa was 37...see a trend? So, if Rachmann was willing to fight in Puerto Rico, why would Ivan instead travel to Columbia to fight Ronald Barrera who had lost every time he stepped up in competition???? That just doesn't make sense to me. And, what's funny is, some thought Calderon lost to Barrera.


    http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIGHTS ... lderon.htm ---Cazares was the biggest fight out there for you, really???? Even when it was obvious that he has had trouble making weight and you, yourself admitted that he would blow up in weight after the weigh-in and be slower because of it??? And Calderon took on Cazares the 2nd time knowing full well that he was having problems making weight. He had problems the first time making weight and had been fighting at a higher weight since his first fight against Ivan.


    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=16559 ---Ivan talks like he wants to fight Canchila but, again, Canchila is another 'weak' champion. A predictable one. And, Ivan is quoted in this article saying that his options are "limited"...really??????


    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...xmailbag060909 -- Why are Solis and Viloria not options once they lose? So instead of fighting them, Ivan would just rather defend his trinket against guys nobody wants to see him fight? Genius.


    Just based on the aforementioned info I've put forth, it seems quite clear that Ivan and his team haven't made the best efforts to put on the best fights in his weight class (didn't do it @ minimum weight either). I just don't believe that it's always the fault of the 'other' fighter; especially when two of the ones I mentioned said that they'd be willing to do the fight in Puerto Rico.

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    • xcaret v3
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      ***en pathetic, stop ducking segura you scared chicken ****

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      • Spray_resistant
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        To be honest, why doesn't he just fight Segura? He is just another 1D fighter with some pop who will be aggressive and who won't find the target much on Ivan while at the end being left losing a 12rd decision with his face all welted up from counter shots.

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          To everyone saying that Calderon is ducking the best I will bet 100 K that after Casimiro he fights Segura. Who's in?

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          • Tamis!
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            If Casimiero gets past thru Garcia then he'll get his wish to fight Calderon, his so-called dream fight. But he need not overlook Garcia.

            I like the kid's chances. Needs to muster enough to stop Ivan though!

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              Originally posted by 5burowz
              Calderon has ZERO interest in fighting the best in his division. He did the same thing at 105. He'll never fight Viloria, Solis, Segura, etc. And he's always blaming these other fighters for not wanting to fight him. Well, I know better. I've done the research.

              http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11772 --instead of fighting Solis in March of 08, he fought Nelson Dieppa. Calderon had been wanting to fight Dieppa for years and he finally got him...when he was on the downside of his career. Dieppa was 37 when he finally got in the ring with Ivan. Plus, Dieppa is also Puerto Rican which means it was probably an easier fight to make i.e. everything on Ivan's terms. Ivan avoided a real challenge from Solis at this time and instead fought a guy who was past it. Ivan could've fought a guy in his prime but chose to do things the easy way. And it's not like Solis didn't want the fight; he was even willing to have the fight in Puerto Rico.


              http://fightfan.com/2009/05/quick-jabs-3/ --Calderon says he wants Viloria if successful against Mayol. Well, we all know why a second fight with Mayol took place, but why not fight Viloria after the 2nd Mayol fight?? Viloria certainly can't be afraid of Calderon as he already beat him twice in the amateurs. Oh, I know, because it's not enough to fight an unranked opponent in Mayol once, but he needs to do it twice. I guess because Solis lost to Viloria, that's why Ivan never fought him? Because he all of the sudden became unviable? Viloria also seemed willing to fight Ivan, but Ivan instead chose to fight Mayol. And when Viloria lost to Tamara, well, I guess he was no longer viable either.


              http://www.badlefthook.com/2007/1/4/15167/89428 -- Once again, Rachmann was willing to fight in Puerto Rico. And, why is Calderon fighting the OLDER fighters in this div. instead of the younger, better fighters? Rachmman was 36 at the time. Dieppa was 37...see a trend? So, if Rachmann was willing to fight in Puerto Rico, why would Ivan instead travel to Columbia to fight Ronald Barrera who had lost every time he stepped up in competition???? That just doesn't make sense to me. And, what's funny is, some thought Calderon lost to Barrera.


              http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIGHTS ... lderon.htm ---Cazares was the biggest fight out there for you, really???? Even when it was obvious that he has had trouble making weight and you, yourself admitted that he would blow up in weight after the weigh-in and be slower because of it??? And Calderon took on Cazares the 2nd time knowing full well that he was having problems making weight. He had problems the first time making weight and had been fighting at a higher weight since his first fight against Ivan.


              http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=16559 ---Ivan talks like he wants to fight Canchila but, again, Canchila is another 'weak' champion. A predictable one. And, Ivan is quoted in this article saying that his options are "limited"...really??????


              http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...xmailbag060909 -- Why are Solis and Viloria not options once they lose? So instead of fighting them, Ivan would just rather defend his trinket against guys nobody wants to see him fight? Genius.


              Just based on the aforementioned info I've put forth, it seems quite clear that Ivan and his team haven't made the best efforts to put on the best fights in his weight class (didn't do it @ minimum weight either). I just don't believe that it's always the fault of the 'other' fighter; especially when two of the ones I mentioned said that they'd be willing to do the fight in Puerto Rico.


              See that Jreck? Calderon is not only ****e, but he's a ***** and boring.

              Tripple wammy.

              Green Kaye for you sir.

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              • ELHURACAN58
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                Originally posted by 5burowz
                Calderon has ZERO interest in fighting the best in his division. He did the same thing at 105. He'll never fight Viloria, Solis, Segura, etc. And he's always blaming these other fighters for not wanting to fight him. Well, I know better. I've done the research.

                http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11772 --instead of fighting Solis in March of 08, he fought Nelson Dieppa. Calderon had been wanting to fight Dieppa for years and he finally got him...when he was on the downside of his career. Dieppa was 37 when he finally got in the ring with Ivan. Plus, Dieppa is also Puerto Rican which means it was probably an easier fight to make i.e. everything on Ivan's terms. Ivan avoided a real challenge from Solis at this time and instead fought a guy who was past it. Ivan could've fought a guy in his prime but chose to do things the easy way. And it's not like Solis didn't want the fight; he was even willing to have the fight in Puerto Rico. Dieppa was actually the one to call him out, Calderon accepted and both fought. Ivan was 34 and is the one who doesnt punch so it was pretty even, well at least on paper it was.


                http://fightfan.com/2009/05/quick-jabs-3/ --Calderon says he wants Viloria if successful against Mayol. Well, we all know why a second fight with Mayol took place, but why not fight Viloria after the 2nd Mayol fight?? Viloria certainly can't be afraid of Calderon as he already beat him twice in the amateurs. Oh, I know, because it's not enough to fight an unranked opponent in Mayol once, but he needs to do it twice. I guess because Solis lost to Viloria, that's why Ivan never fought him? Because he all of the sudden became unviable? Viloria also seemed willing to fight Ivan, but Ivan instead chose to fight Mayol. And when Viloria lost to Tamara, well, I guess he was no longer viable either.Did you see those fights? It looks like you dont cause if you did you wouldnt be talking about this. Calderon got a controversial draw against Rodel and a second match was needed to remove all doubts. If Viloria was so good he should have defended the belt he had further to fight Calderon, not Ivan's fault Viloria lost to a bum.


                http://www.badlefthook.com/2007/1/4/15167/89428 -- Once again, Rachmann was willing to fight in Puerto Rico. And, why is Calderon fighting the OLDER fighters in this div. instead of the younger, better fighters? Rachmman was 36 at the time. Dieppa was 37...see a trend? So, if Rachmann was willing to fight in Puerto Rico, why would Ivan instead travel to Columbia to fight Ronald Barrera who had lost every time he stepped up in competition???? That just doesn't make sense to me. And, what's funny is, some thought Calderon lost to Barrera.Yeah yeah, dont really know why this fight wasnt made, but everything turned out for the better as less than sixth months later after this article was made Rachmann lost his title in his hometown to unknown Condes while Calderon beat a tougher challenge in Cazares.


                http://www.*********extra.com/cc/FIGHTS ... lderon.htm ---Cazares was the biggest fight out there for you, really???? Even when it was obvious that he has had trouble making weight and you, yourself admitted that he would blow up in weight after the weigh-in and be slower because of it??? And Calderon took on Cazares the 2nd time knowing full well that he was having problems making weight. He had problems the first time making weight and had been fighting at a higher weight since his first fight against Ivan. Ive never heard of weight problems in the first fight. Cazares was the Ring and WBO champ and Calderon looked to fight the best. Anyway I dont know if youre hating but you should very well know Cazares was the one pushing for the rematch not Calderon. Heck Calderon wouldnt have fought him anyway a second time if it wasnt for the fact Varcarcel made Cazares the mandatory


                http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=16559 ---Ivan talks like he wants to fight Canchila but, again, Canchila is another 'weak' champion. A predictable one. And, Ivan is quoted in this article saying that his options are "limited"...really?????? And Ivan will now fight the guy that just recently made Canchila his *****.


                http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...xmailbag060909 -- Why are Solis and Viloria not options once they lose? So instead of fighting them, Ivan would just rather defend his trinket against guys nobody wants to see him fight? Genius. Didnt you just say you wanted to see him fight a champion, What so now you want to see Ivan fight guys that just lost by ko? That would make Ivan a cherrypicker wouldnt it?


                Just based on the aforementioned info I've put forth, it seems quite clear that Ivan and his team haven't made the best efforts to put on the best fights in his weight class (didn't do it @ minimum weight either). I just don't believe that it's always the fault of the 'other' fighter; especially when two of the ones I mentioned said that they'd be willing to do the fight in Puerto Rico.Yeah just by your lack of knowledge I can tell you havent been watching the Iron Boy fight until just recently.
                And last but not least Casimero is the interim champion. Ivan has to fight him or else he gets stripped. I wonder if you guys where there when Forrest refused to fight then unknown Sergio Martinez and thus got stripped.

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                • ChampBox@PR
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                  Originally posted by ELHURACAN58
                  And last but not least Casimero is the interim champion. Ivan has to fight him or else he gets stripped. I wonder if you guys where there when Forrest refused to fight then unknown Sergio Martinez and thus got stripped.


                  This is just Calderon Taking care of his mandatory, like he should. In Novembe/december hell unify with Segura.

                  The funny thing is that Solis and Sosa refused to fight him and Viloria even faked a injury to get out of a fight with Calderon.

                  But whatever, Calderon schools themm all in one night!

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                  • warp1432
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                    Originally posted by PR Boxer
                    To everyone saying that Calderon is ducking the best I will bet 100 K that after Casimiro he fights Segura. Who's in?
                    I want this. Champbox@PR was vividly stating that Calderon wouldn't fight the last bum he fought and fight Viloria instead Low and behold....

                    edit: As good as Calderon is, which I'm even skeptical in this in the last few years, I won't give a **** about him if he doesn't unify. Dude is the champ of his division, but people like Edgar Sosa fought much better competition when he was a titlist.

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