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Difference between an ATG and HOF?
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Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Postare you deying this happened? I can prove it by taking you to his resume. The fight is even on youtube.
This might take away from becoming an elitist.
And, then you add what he accomplished when he was absolutely passed his prime and very undersized is what made him an elitist.
A lot of people, me included, rank Duran #1 in that fab 4 era. Duran>Leonard>Hagler>Hearns.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostBut, he was already an ATG before that. And, lets not forget what happened in the fight right before the fight that you're talking about.
And, then you add what he accomplished when he was absolutely passed his prime and very undersized is what made him an elitist.
A lot of people, me included, rank Duran #1 in that fab 4 era. Duran>Leonard>Hagler>Hearns.
He is definately an high level ATG
He is definately "legendary"
But can he really be considered an elitist?
convince me please.
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Originally posted by MmuhammadM View PostI may actually rank duran number 1 but there are deep scars, cuts, and bruises on his resume that take away from becoming an elitist.
He is definately an high level ATG
He is definately "legendary"
But can he really be considered an elitist?
And, when you're in the top 10 all time or borderline top 10 which I think he is. Then that is elitist.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostWell what is in a elitist to you? A lot of people rank Duran in the top 10 all time. I might not have him in my personal top 10 but a lot of people do.
And, when you're in the top 10 all time or borderline top 10 which I think he is. Then that is elitist.
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Originally posted by MmuhammadM View PostI may actually rank duran number 1 but there are deep scars, cuts, and bruises on his resume that take away from becoming an elitist.
He is definately an high level ATG
He is definately "legendary"
But can he really be considered an elitist?
convince me please.
Even the Duran that beat SRL wasn't the best version of Duran and that says alot.
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Originally posted by El Protagonista View PostWhere? In his jump up in weight? Duran was probably the greatest lightweight in boxing history. The only two guys you could make a case for are Henry Armstrong and Benny Leonard..
Even the Duran that beat SRL wasn't the best version of Duran and that says alot.
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Originally posted by MmuhammadM View PostIMO for me elitist is top 3/4 or am I being too unfair here?
Duran is a top 3 LW on most peoples lists and I find it damn near impossible to who should be #1 out of him, Benny Leonard and Joe Gans.
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Originally posted by MmuhammadM View PostIMO for me elitist is top 3/4 or am I being too unfair here?
But, OK that is fine but you do know all that top 3 or 4 or 5 is really opininated.
For example I am pretty sure you have Ali as an elitist. I would not argue he is an elitist the greatest HW of all time. And, as much as I love Ali I don't have Ali in my top 5.
SRR, Armstrong, Greb, B. Leonard, and Pep are in my top 5. I do have Ali ahead of Ross and Langford. But, I know people who have Ross and Langford ahead of Ali. And, you can't really argue that. Because, both Langford and Ross have a case to be ahead of Ali.
So I don't see how you can leave these 7 guys out cuz they're not 3 or 4.
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