Roy Jones JR: Manny at least top 3 or 4 on GOAT LIST

[RubenSonny]

Well Floyd thinks of himself as the greatest of all time. Better than ray robinson, better than Ali, so you must really think Floyd is an idiot. But really, why shouldn't an undefeated fighter of floyds caliber with 5 weight classes under his bealt not think he is the greatest of All time. I feel like Roy, Floyd, and Pac all should feel they were the G.O.A.T. At one point or another, they have all done things that have either never been done, or never been done so dominantly. I don't think people give enough credit to current fighters, and way to much credit to old school fighters they have never seen fight. IMO, saying Ray robinson is better than Roy Jones is like saying Bill Russel is better than Shaq. If bill and Shaq, Shaq would of destroyed him. If Roy and Ray would of met, Roy would of destroyed him.

who accomplished more bill or shaq?

[slickfox]

all I can say is if pac loses to mayweather he wont sniff the top 20 of the ATG

[Vasyl’s dad]

Well Floyd thinks of himself as the greatest of all time. Better than ray robinson, better than Ali, so you must really think Floyd is an idiot. But really, why shouldn't an undefeated fighter of floyds caliber with 5 weight classes under his bealt not think he is the greatest of All time. I feel like Roy, Floyd, and Pac all should feel they were the G.O.A.T. At one point or another, they have all done things that have either never been done, or never been done so dominantly. I don't think people give enough credit to current fighters, and way to much credit to old school fighters they have never seen fight. IMO, saying Ray robinson is better than Roy Jones is like saying Bill Russel is better than Shaq. If bill and Shaq, Shaq would of destroyed him. If Roy and Ray would of met, Roy would of destroyed him.

Bill Russell went up against Wilt Chamberlain. He would not get destroyed by Shaq by any means whatsoever.

[FerdinandMarcos]

How is Floyd bigger and stronger than SRR? SRR started as a LW who had a fight a LHW. Was also taller than Floyd. Do you think Floyd could fight as a LHW?

I mean I guess that could hold true for HW's. Seeing that back in the day the top HW's rareley weight more than 225 pounds. While now is rare to see a top HW who weighs less then 225 pounds.

But, back then a WW weighed 147, today a WW weights 147. Where is the bigger and stronger coming from? A MW now weighs 160 a MW 100 years weigh in at 160. And, you can do that for every weight-class except HW I give you that.

I have not seen a faster fighter yet then Camacho or Taylor. so how are fighters from today faster?

And, honestly can't really say that Floyd was faster than SRR, maybe had better reflexes I give you that. But, SRR had very good speed.

As for as skills that again is not true. Go look at the top 10 P4P list of 30 years ago.

Ray Leonard,
Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran
Alexis Argeullo
Marving Hagler
Salvador Sancehz
Wilfredo Gomez
Aaron Pryor
Wilfredo Benitez
Jeff Chandler

Compared that to todays top 10 P4P fighters.

Pac
Floyd
Donaire
JMM
Caballero
Mosley
P-Will
Dawson
Wonjongkam
Martinez

Tell me which P4P list overall has the better skilled fighters?

Now for the styles comment. Again that is not true. The styles from back then will work in today era. Look at George Benton for example



tell me if George Benton style is not similar to a very elite fighter of this era?

Go look at Charles Burley style



Are you saying this style and skill set would not be effective in this era?

Hell go even look at Primo Carnera style. And, tell me is not like watching Vitaly Klitschko.



And, look at Carnera size. He was 6'5 255-265 pounds, reach was 85 inches. Now compare that to Vitaly who is 6'7 245-250 pound with a reach of 80 inches.

Don't tell me that today's fighters in any way shape and form are better then fighters from back then.

You knocked that clean over the fence.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

I can only conclude that Roy took entirely too many headshots since he came back down from heavyweight.


He "must've forgot" all his Boxing History.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

Let me guess this thread consists of *****s either posting A. "Roy Jones Jr clearly messed up in the head after all the ass whoopings he has gotten lately". B. "It's just one steroid user supporting another steroid "alleged by floyd's camp and fans steroid user" user. Or the usual unoriginal C. "He don't know **** about boxing." Am i right?

I plumped for option A.