Why doesn't Martinez have an HBO date?

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  • Iceta Lives
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    #11
    And why is Dibella telling BScene and Rafael two different things? First on the BScene story he says he doesn't want the rematch. And then he tells Rafeal that he does. Which one is it?

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    • ChampBox@PR
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      #12
      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
      Pulled out of the original fight with a fake injury. Quit when the actual fight itself got exciting.
      Had a broken right hand, thats proven!!

      Outbox the **** out of Williams and hurt his ass. The he got tangle andd hurt himelf!!! The Doc didnt let him continue!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
        Had a broken right hand, thats proven!!

        Outbox the **** out of Williams and hurt his ass. The he got tangle andd hurt himelf!!! The Doc didnt let him continue!!!
        He fought a month later then what his original date for the P-Will fight. A month later, he could of just postponed the fight for a month. Something that P-Will was willing to do BTW. Yet he just straight out canceled and fought one month later.

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          #14
          I already addressed this yesterday. The reason why he has no date is because he has no real fan base. HBO is not going to Argentina to show his fights and the amount of money a fighter of his level demands just isn't there in viewership. It will be hard for Martinez to find dates on HBO.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            I'm not hating on Martinez, I'm just saying that I don't think I've ever heard Paul Williams and his team say that he didn't want to give Martinez a rematch even though he's talking about moving back down to 147 (which that in itself has got me scratching my head and questioning Williams' audacity). If you remember right, there was a story by Steve Kim that said Williams and Goosen offered Martinez better money than what he got to fight Pavlik and Martinez turned it down.

            Dibella on the other hand is talking all this **** of having these guys clean out 154 and 160 respectively and have the rematch marinate.

            If you want me to sum it up, Williams and Martinez need to man the fuck up and fight each other because if they do it will increase their notoriety and make it seem worthwhile to guys like Pac, Floyd, and Cotto to fight them. So these guys are dancing around each other while HBO is blackballing them not giving them a date and Martinez is crying about it? I understand that Williams has got Haymon connections and all.

            But you don't claim to be this feared fighter and then turn down a rematch with a guy who holds a win over you. Especially whether or not you fight on HBO again this year revolves around that decision.
            First of all don't believe everything on Dan Rafael blog. Dude is horrible.

            Also from what I know Martinez team gave HBO a list with 5 names of potential opponents. And, P-Will was on that list.

            Yes P-Will offered Martinez more money then what Pavlik did. But, Pavlik was the MW champ, lineal title and all. The opportunity to be a 2 division champ. And, with a title they probably thought they could of even be more in control in the negotiations with P-Will.

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            • Iceta Lives
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              #16
              Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
              Had a broken right hand, thats proven!!

              Outbox the **** out of Williams and hurt his ass. The he got tangle andd hurt himelf!!! The Doc didnt let him continue!!!
              Signed to fight Margarito two weeks after that injury. And the fight with Paul was fought on even terms until it ended. Both guys landed practically the same amount of punches. Williams did look mediocre to me in that fight I will admit, but I'm not gonna form a full conclusion on who would've gotten the better of who given how early it ended. He doesn't owe a rematch to Cintron like you say though.

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                #17
                Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                Nobody was owned.

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