Why i believe Pac is on PED's.

[V.WEBB]

he was making accustatons in November........this didn't blow up until team Pac blew it up.............

Actually it was before November. I mean, Pac wasn't too worried about it because if he were, he would have filed the suit WAAAAAY before he did.

[The Big Dunn]

How can you beat these *****s? They want it both ways. I thought this thread is about why Pac is on PEDs. And you're saying his opponents were destined to be beaten, anyway, without PED.

What a ****** logic. These *****s should resign from the human race.

I never said anything. I only asked you a question. Oscar weighed 147 when he fought manny, 7 lbs less than the fight before and a weight he hadn't made in years. It is possible he was weight drained?

Manny beat ODH and Hatton after they lost to floyd. That makes the statement true.

Again, you may disagree that is fine. Doesn't mean the statements wern't true.

[check hook]

Right, Floyd Sr!

It's all The Predator's fault.......he left his home planet and came down to earth and started this war..........where is Dutch when you need him

[dr.x]

Yeah the truth hurts. Don't it.. Thanks for the reply... Who do you love??? GOOOOOOO FLOYD!!!!!

props for manny pacquiao for agreeing to OST up to 14 days before the fight , but can anybody introduce a scientific evidence that the body can't benefit from PEDs in a 14-day duration or less than that , whatever the type of PED is ?
I personally don't know ,If anybody here knows enlighten us

[Gutz]

Pac is so good .. That hater think he is on PEDs..



Classic....

[loui_ludwig]

Did you believe Pac was on HGH, PED, Aside Meth, or some **** before the Mayweather started accusing him?

[Jo94403]

Maybe this just went over your head, so let me re-post and see if I can get at least an answer to my ONE simple question that is bolded below.

#148

Here we go again. Talking about why Pacquiao is on PED.

When are you guys going to stop being so obsessed with this ****. You guys are worst than Mayweather Sr. and Roger. They made there comments about it and you guys just rode it to death. And still riding it. Trying so hard to prove that he is on something.

First of all, I didn't read your whole story. Too long for me, but the fact is, there are no basis for your assumptions. Yes, assumptions because that's all it is. You have no concrete evidence whatsoever that he is on anything.

Do you know that Manny has taken more drug test in his previous fights than Floyd.

Manny has even taken a blood test 1 day before the first Morales fight. Has Floyd ever taken a blood test 1 day before his fights? IDK the real answer to that, but I don't think he has.

My point is, Manny has proven time and time again that "he is" a clean fighter.

It's easy to say, oh it's not this type of test or that type of test. That's all just a bunch of BULL****! Again, NO HARD EVIDENCE TO PROVE ANY OF IT!

Then you are going to come back and say, oh all these other athletes tested negative and they were actually on something. And yes, there are also athletes that have tested negative and who really have "not" taken anything.

Until the day that I hear that yes there are "real" evidence to prove your claim. Then I will believe you. Until then, these are "ALL BULL****!"

[The Big Dunn]

Did you believe Pac was on HGH, PED, Aside Meth, or some **** before the Mayweather started accusing him?

no and I still don't

Do you believe manny was not on PED's when he changed the reasons to not take tests 5 times?

[Kingstan315]

Again, you tend to ignore the first part of my post. You are ok with classless individuals ruining your legacy of ****** rumors from an ex-con.. more power to you.

If you're talking about Sr. & Roger, I have no problem with them speaking out if they have su****ions. After all they truely have a stake in the fight. If you suspected foul play and a close relative of yours was involed you would speak up wouldn't you???

[| THE KING |]

Yes I do want to see them fight. Respectfully, your arrest example while true does not does not apply to this discussion. I don't agree with floyd sr. But, manny has made himself look bad with his actions. Why a pac fan can't see this is beyond me.

I agree there is no proof. There are 2 reasonable responses to your post. there was no proof until Shane tested positive and there is no proof because the best tesing method is not used. I think those are fair points.

regarding manny's compromise did you have a problem that he said he'd accept the 14 day cutoff only after it was taken off the table?

You have some valid points. The arrest example does. This is actually even worse since mannys image took somewhat of a hit (though only to online mayweather fans as seen by posters here on this board). Manny made himself look bad because he stood his ground? They are BOTH divas and have huge egos, this is expected. Would you bend over backwards to your opponent after he tried to tarnish your legacy?

I agree there was no proof with shane until all that **** came out, but that has nothing to do with manny. Again, with no evidence there is nothing.

In regards to manny's compromise.. Why is it off the table? Manny is actually compromising with FLOYDS OWN terms to make the fight happen. If you are a fight fan, **** the politics/money.. Let's get the fight on.

Will have to agree to disagree with you on some points. You atleast take the time to try and understand that it goes BOTH WAYS. At the end of the day, even though I don't agree with this whole thing, I wish manny would just take the test with no cut-offs just to get the fight started. That's what you call a fan of the sport.. not a fan on a figthers nuts.

Last post on this thread.. good talkin..