Why i believe Pac is on PED's.

[PAC-NATION]

Dude, his fans realize it. That's why they're ignoring the points in your post.

You ever tried making weight before?

I think that has more to do with entering into childish arguments with posters like you. Everyone is entitle to own opinion, so whats the big deal? If the ts believes it cool, but I and other pac fans don't so whats the problem?

[BuckToothed]

So, so ******. "But he's starving himself!" Yeah well thatd oesn't make water weight lean muscle.

A couple of things to point out, not necessary directed to you or boxing in general, just a few nutrition facts.

Muscles will look flat without proper nutrition, glycogen is stored energy from carbs. Lean muscle contains 75% water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_water

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen

Without both, doesn't matter how much muscle mass you have, it'll look flat/less and definitely no stamina/energy.

Manny's ring weight has been consistent mid-140 for the past 5 years.
If you claim that his lean muscle climbed, then his water then dropped since its the same net weight... which surely isn't the case since he is more conditioned. So someone claiming it was water weight that was missing before (less energy) and now he carries his power and stamina should somewhat support the facts I presented above.

[southcentralcar]

You are ok with accusing someone based on unfounded baseless allegations. How did floyd move up in weight.. he was at 106 at the same time pac was at 106 when they were in their teens.

answer his question u bitchass

[Kingstan315]

my opinion is out in the open....i have voiced it before....objectively i think it is naive given what has happened over the last few month to not at least be su****ious of the man.........

Oh Pac is very, very suspect to me... thing about it is if had had not made excuses on why he should not Take OSTs I would have never gone back looking for clues as to when and were he started using. and I believe it was around the Diaz fight. If he was wieght drained his whole career as one guy said, then his whole team are dumd fcks for takeing so long to realize.....

[IMDAZED]

I think that has more to do with entering into childish arguments with posters like you. Everyone is entitle to own opinion, so whats the big deal? If the ts believes it cool, but I and other pac fans don't so whats the problem?

Not one of his fans has been able to rebut anything he wrote. Whyd on't you step up to the plate, "PAC Nation?"

[check hook]

I don't think Pac is on PED's I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt since he never tested positive. However, his actions and responses regarding testing should raise concerns. He gives off the vibe that he is hiding something because he is so incosistent with his answers and actions.

I would think Manny's inconsistency would bother his fans significantly because it raises questions about his credibility.

hey....that's all i'm saying....whether you believe what i do or don't from an objective standpoint (if you are being objective) it doesn't look good for Manny.........

[Alibata]

fair enough....but why am i jealous????

Your beliefs speak for itself. What is your beliefs based on to look at a man and in your mind discredit his hard work.. Why??? What for because he is outshining your boy? Is what Manny did spectacular enough to make haters succumb to the rantings of a crack head? Dang you gotta look deep inside yourself if your first reaction to someone success is su****ion dawg.. That just means you need to try harder in your own life and believe anything is possible. What manny did is not even comparable to the real great achievements of others.

[Kingstan315]

You are ok with accusing someone based on unfounded baseless allegations. How did floyd move up in weight.. he was at 106 at the same time pac was at 106 when they were in their teens.

We Have no Proof on Barry Bonds, Do you believe he was all Natural???

[IMDAZED]

A couple of things to point out, not necessary directed to you or boxing in general, just a few nutrition facts.

Muscles will look flat without proper nutrition, glycogen is stored energy from carbs. Lean muscle contains 75% water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_water

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycogen

Without both, doesn't matter how much muscle mass you have, it'll look flat/less and definitely no stamina/energy.

Manny's ring weight has been consistent mid-140 for the past 5 years.
If you claim that his lean muscle climbed, then his water then dropped since its the same net weight... which surely isn't the case since he is more conditioned. So someone claiming it was water weight that was missing before (less energy) and now he carries his power and stamina should somewhat support the facts I presented above.

No, it doesn't. Does Manny gain 10lbs every night? What is his walking around weight? How much did he have to cut to get down to 130? How long does that take him? How was he able to move up to 147 in a matter of months and suffer only a slight loss of speed yet increase his stamina?

[Amazinger]

Yup...
And lemme guess you also believe that
A)9/11 is an inside job
B) Christ was not crucified
C) The world's going to end in dec. 2012

any more you can add to your set of belief.