Comments Thread For: Frank Warren Talks Golden Boy, Haye, Khan, Jennings

[dmarlay]

You are not right kiddo, Zab Judah is absolutely NOT ***ish. He's some sort of Christian .

Maybe an offshoot of Black Hebrews, or even Black Christians. True, he wears a variety of kabbalistic symbols on his clothing, including a Magen David, (a shield of David) the six-sided star, known as a ***ish symbol

Otherwise I wouldn't guarantee exactly what he is, but DEFINITELY not ***ish..

Several times I (and I suppose, millions of others) have heard him that "MY Blessed Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ" etc. and there isn't a *** in the world who would do that.

Dana Rosenblatt who retired a few years back, and who had a hot Junior_Middleweight rivalry going on with Vinny Pazienza, was, as far as I know, the most recent ***ish Champion.

Hmm, you may be right. I had seen Judah listed under the tag "***ish boxers" on boxrec's encyclopedia, in addition to the various Star of David symbols on his trunks. A glance at his wikipedia page shows Yoel to claim membership to the Black Hebrew Israelites, but also references his "lord and savior Jesus Christ." I'd be interested to hear Zab give a fuller explanation at some point, if he is a guest on FNF or does a chat on espn.com.

[edgarg]

Hmm, you may be right. I had seen Judah listed under the tag "***ish boxers" on boxrec's encyclopedia, in addition to the various Star of David symbols on his trunks. A glance at his wikipedia page shows Yoel to claim membership to the Black Hebrew Israelites, but also references his "lord and savior Jesus Christ." I'd be interested to hear Zab give a fuller explanation at some point, if he is a guest on FNF or does a chat on espn.com.

There are, as you likely know, all sorts of odd sects floating around, and I'd bet that Zab's is one of them. Anyone who feels like it, can get up in the morning, go downtown and start a sect. To many, ******* is merely a matter of circumcision, baigels and lox. But of course other than circumcision,-today very common-they are really nothing in *******.

The fact that Zab's family sport biblical names might give the impression of *******, but, in a country like the US, with it's semi-biblical beginnings, biblical names have always been common, and in the days when they took their religion seriously, a biblical name was the rule rather than the exception.

By coincidence, just like you, when I saw the Magen David, the Shield of David, I thought that Zab might either be ***ish, or in the process of converting. But I was very thoroughly undeceiced by having heard him in an interview, where more words were "bleeped" out than were left in. Soooo....I immediately assumed that he could not be an intending convert, and shortly after, I heard him thank his lord Jesus Christ, which settled it for me.

Just around the same time, there was a lot of publicity in Israel about a few hundred "Black Hebrews" found living there, who were refusing to go back to the States, from where they'd infiltrated into Israel, on tourist visa's, claiming to be a long lost tribe..............Well the historical beginnings of the Black Hebrews, can be clearly found on the internet, or even a cheap encyclopaedia, and dates back to around the 1950's or 60's. They're still there having refused to leave.

I shouldn't have started talking about this, and I wouldn't be over-surprised if Zab or his buddies knock at my door (thank heavens for the anonymous internet) ONLY KIDDING......

I myself am devotedly ***ish.

[MWNYG]

"Promoter Bob Arum has delivered the huge gate after putting in hours of groundwork selling the fight.

When it comes to staging big shows in the US, no one is better than Arum. Just look what has been achieved with Manny Pacquiao.

Arum helped make Puerto Rican Cotto a big star - and few names are bigger in New York. But New Yorker Foreman has a story as well. He's boxing's first ***ish world champion in years and is studying to become a Rabbi.

Whereas Arum has built stars for years, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions cherry picks the products of others' hard work - this despite De La Hoya becoming a superstar under Arum.

Only this week, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer said that, compared to other promoters, his firm was the 'Barcelona of boxing - only interested in stars' which most rivals will find insulting.

The main reason behind Golden Boy's success is their five-year TV deal with HBO, signed when De La Hoya was still fighting. That expires next year and I don't think there will be a new five-year offer on the table now he has retired.

And if Schaefer thinks British promoters are going to develop stars only to see them lured to America, he's mistaken. But, if a boxer is out of contract, he can do as he wishes.

Amir Khan has already gone to Golden Boy, saying he wanted to fight the very best.

But, after just one appearance Stateside, he's back in the UK on July 31 with 38-year-old Cuban Joel Casamayor - who has spent most of his career at super-featherweight."



So, known manipulator Frank Warren is given the voice on BoxingScene to talk up his friend Bob Arum, while taking unfair swipes and out of context quotes from a Golden Boy executive as he continues to talk down on them.

"Golden Boy takes from the work of others, theyre only sucessful because of their 5-year deal with HBO, I doubt they'll get a new deal with HBO."

"I claim Schaefer, who speaks for Golden Boy, thinks this anti-British, American elitist, anti-small promoter thought, even though he never actually said so. I just assumed so."

Then he takes his shots at Amir Khan, who left him for Golden Boy to get a better deal.

"Khan said he wants to the fight the best, but he's not fighting a top fighter in his next fight. seems like a liar."

gossip girl bull****. these guys aren't perfect, but they're not as corrupt as you.