Roy Jones Destroyed Heavyweight Boxing

[Imira]

I won't blame Roy Jones for the state of the HW division. To do so is just plain ******. In my opinion, these things need to change:

-There needs to be ONE freakin' champion per weight class under ONE sanctioning body

-Too many weight divisions add to the disarray. Can someone PLEASE explain to me why we need a super version of our current weight classes. And can someone please tell me who really gives a flying squirrel about the cruiserweight division?

-Title shots are handed out to ANYBODY. All you have to do is ask. How often have we seen a fighter have a record of 17-8-5 with 5 of those 8 losses occurring back to back before a "title eliminator" win that guarantees them a shot at the title?

-Rankings need to be compiled by one authority. This goes back to the "One sanctioning body" thing from before...

I know that a lot of people can think of a number of things that need to change, but the state of the HW division can't be placed on one fighter. And, while I'm not a huge fan of Roy Jones, he offers entertainment in his fights and he's got a great personality. Something that can't really be said for the out of shape, out of condition, no fundamentals, gasping for air by round 3 fighters of the HW division.

[Slipx]

Only thing I don't like about Jones is the fact that he acts like it was a brave thing to do to move up to Heavyweight and take out Ruiz for the title. I mean, he basically lowered himself to one of the top 5 paper heavies of all time by doing it, especially since Ruiz is not a great fighter.(I think ruiz style is good, ugly,but good,esp him being someone with not the best chin in the HW div)

had evander been champ and roy beat evander, then THAT would be something to be proud of.

roy should've fought benn when he was in his prime, then euros wouldnt call him a coward(benn woulda been a tough fight though even for prime roy)

[Urban Predator]

Oh and one more reason might be that Lennox waited for all the best Heavyweights to get old and pathetic before he decided to fight them is another reason the HW division is a joke now.

What a crock of ****.

It had nothing to do with Lewis actually being ducked e.g Tyson paying him off, Bowe dumping the belt in the trash rather than fight him.

I can see you're non biased when it comes to Lewis.

[Imira]

What a crock of ****.

It had nothing to do with Lewis actually being ducked e.g Tyson paying him off, Bowe dumping the belt in the trash rather than fight him.

I can see you're non biased when it comes to Lewis.

Exactly. It's a known fact that Tyson and Bowe both ducked Lewis when they had their chance to fight and probably beat him.

[fatpom]

I think the sport, and the HW devision especially would still be in taters even if Jones had continued campaigning as a HW. So I think Blaming Jones for the current state of the devision is a little unfair.

I think the person who ironically suffered the most frmo Jones' bitchery, was the man himself.
Take a look at how Jones is viewed by so many people know. A bum who avoided any good fighters that could expose him for years. Only to get KTFO when he finally fought someone good. Now I don't personally agree with that. But I believe that if Roy had just defended his crown. Right now, his detractor would have to be eating some serious humble pie & Jones would be considered one of the true all time greats.

I agree with Goat that Jones could have & should have beat Chris Bryd. Giving him a major claim to being the best HW is the world. And setting up a fight with Lewis.
Obviously I beleive Lewis would be far too much for Jones to handle & he would have been KTFO as soon as Lennox layed a glove on him. But if that had happend, know one could be making the argument that Jones had no chin. And being KO'ed by Lennox Lewis wouldn't damage Jones' legacy at all. Infact, the very fact that he would take that fight would have to enhance his legacy a great deal & silence allot of critics.

IMO though, we still would of had to face the same situation we do now with Lewis' retirement. So I don't believe we can Blame Jones for it. But he played his part, that is for sure.

[Loco671]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The downfall of the heavyweight division could be attributed to the NFL and NBA. All of the better athletes have chosen other avenues than boxing. You could also make a case that the lack of network coverage is a contributor. To try to blame Roy Jones for moving up and winning a heavyweight title belt is nothing short of ignorant. Jones haters tend to have a problem with letting their hatred for Roy get in the way of reality.

Nice post.

Roy Jones is da man!

[Loco671]

I think the sport, and the HW devision especially would still be in taters even if Jones had continued campaigning as a HW. So I think Blaming Jones for the current state of the devision is a little unfair.

I think the person who ironically suffered the most frmo Jones' bitchery, was the man himself.
Take a look at how Jones is viewed by so many people know. A bum who avoided any good fighters that could expose him for years. Only to get KTFO when he finally fought someone good. Now I don't personally agree with that. But I believe that if Roy had just defended his crown. Right now, his detractor would have to be eating some serious humble pie & Jones would be considered one of the true all time greats.

I agree with Goat that Jones could have & should have beat Chris Bryd. Giving him a major claim to being the best HW is the world. And setting up a fight with Lewis.
Obviously I beleive Lewis would be far too much for Jones to handle & he would have been KTFO as soon as Lennox layed a glove on him. But if that had happend, know one could be making the argument that Jones had no chin. And being KO'ed by Lennox Lewis wouldn't damage Jones' legacy at all. Infact, the very fact that he would take that fight would have to enhance his legacy a great deal & silence allot of critics.

IMO though, we still would of had to face the same situation we do now with Lewis' retirement. So I don't believe we can Blame Jones for it. But he played his part, that is for sure.

I agree. Lennox would have been way too much for Roy with such a huge disadvantage in hieght and weight. But if Roy actaully gave an effort to unify the HW div. it would have put him on a whole different level.

[2nd II none]

What a crock of ****.

It had nothing to do with Lewis actually being ducked e.g Tyson paying him off, Bowe dumping the belt in the trash rather than fight him.

I can see you're non biased when it comes to Lewis.

No actually I'm a realist when it comes to lewis.Just look at who his losses are to McCall? Rahman? then what happened when he fought an actual tough HW like Klitschko? yeah he beat him but Vitali put a serious beating on him and sent him into retirement.And I wasn't saying Lewis was being ducked I was saying Lewis was ducking them.I mean who couldn't beat Evander when lewis fought him? Evander couldn't even get rid of Ruiz for gods sake.The only person who actually beat Evander when he was on top of his game was Bowe and he did it rather well too.

[GOAT]

I mean who couldn't beat Evander when lewis fought him?

Are you serious?

When Lewis fought Evander, Evander was the unified and lineal heavyweight champion of the world and had just defeated WBA champion Mike Tyson twice, IBF champion Michael Moorer and top contender Vaughn Bean.

Apparently, nobody other than Lewis could beat him at that point.

[JUYJUY]

Roid Jones.


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