Why did Ali have so much trouble with Norton?

[jack_the_rippuh]

Answer this question for me.

Is Ken Norton overrated?

[Truth]

Answer this question for me.

Is Ken Norton overrated?

Didn't Norton break Ali's jaw in the first fight?

[Run]

If you notice early in the first fight, Norton was establishing the jab on ali. His akward defense allowed him to block power shots, and he did a good job distancing himself. Not running away, but landing them effectively. Yes, I think Norton was overrated as a fighter.



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[sisforshaq]

Didn't Norton break Ali's jaw in the first fight?

Yeah he did in the first fight.

[Guest]

I reckon Norton just had the stance to trouble Ali, just a "jinx opponent" (along with Frazier). Though unlike Frazier, I reckon he's overrated, yeah. His chin wouldn't stand up to heavy shots and he was the first man to be given a belt without earning it in the ring.

[Guest]

If you notice early in the first fight, Norton was establishing the jab on ali. His akward defense allowed him to block power shots, and he did a good job distancing himself. Not running away, but landing them effectively. Yes, I think Norton was overrated as a fighter.

Yeah, that's true. I read about Eddie Futch devising it as a psychological weapon. Norton did the unorthodox thing of throwing his jab at the same time as Ali threw his. So he would be connecting because Ali wasn't expecting it, and unconsciously Ali believed his jab was as fast as his own. It wasn't, but it was a trick that worked and threw him off his game.

[realheavyhands]

norton had great defense crab defense like archie moore...archie moore traned norton this what larry holmes told me

[guru]

norton was the wrong guy for ali... although norton never beat any other top guy, he gave ali hell... styles makes fights... norton is a reason why i beleive homes and lewis would have been tough fights for ali..

[DiegoFuego]

Norton broke Ali's effin jaw in the 2nd round

[Yogi]

Yeah, that's true. I read about Eddie Futch devising it as a psychological weapon. Norton did the unorthodox thing of throwing his jab at the same time as Ali threw his. So he would be connecting because Ali wasn't expecting it, and unconsciously Ali believed his jab was as fast as his own. It wasn't, but it was a trick that worked and threw him off his game.

That is true, and you can see that when they fight. Futch picked up on the fact that Ali dropped his right hand a bit every single time he threw a jab, and he got Norton to throw a jab every time Ali threw one.

Norton also fought smart when he was able to back Ali up with the jab, and instead of trying to head hunt when Ali was on the ropes, Norton concentrated more on going to the body and he did so effectively. Of course, Norton also landed plenty of right hands throughout their fights, and that ws also a useful weapon for him.

Is Norton overrated? Well, back in 1998 The Ring came up with a ranking of who they thought were the 50 greatest Heavyweights of all-time...Norton was slotted in the 22nd spot overall, so you can form your own opinion on that one.