Does anyone else think Freddie Roach is trying to bait Floyd?

[Carpe Diem]

uh.........cotto got dropped trying to press Pac.

of course im not saying that would happen to pbf (though i would like it to)

When Cotto did it, he left himself too open. Now, i'm not saying Floyd won't get hit, but he can avoid few of Manny's punches and lean forward. Cotto got a little too excited and decided to proved he was stronger than Manny, he paid the price. Floyd know he can't fight Manny's fight, and Manny know he can't fight Floyd's fight, so we'll see what happen..

[wizard king]

i still think its a mismatch from hell thier is nothing that pac does that convince me that floyd wont do what he did to jmm and mosley to pac.he is going to make pac look like a rookie just like he did against jmm. people are just way over their heads. i just dont see pac doing anybetter then what mosly did.

[Pacdbest]

i still think its a mismatch from hell thier is nothing that pac does that convince me that floyd wont do what he did to jmm and mosley to pac.he is going to make pac look like a rookie just like he did against jmm. people are just way over their heads. i just dont see pac doing anybetter then what mosly did.

Maybe you need to convinced Floyd that it will be easy so He can finally sign the fight!! The way I see it, Floyd looks scared!!!

[Carpe Diem]

i still think its a mismatch from hell thier is nothing that pac does that convince me that floyd wont do what he did to jmm and mosley to pac.he is going to make pac look like a rookie just like he did against jmm. people are just way over their heads. i just dont see pac doing anybetter then what mosly did.

BS, man. Manny is a smarter fighter now than he was years ago [even though i don't think he can outsmarting Floyd], but he now know that the game of the sport is more than just speed and power. I used to think he was just a brawler, and recently i did quoted saying he was, but after rewatching his fights from the Marco Antonio Barrera fight to the Joshua Clottey fight, i am now convinced that he's a complete Boxer. Like most complete boxers, he still has flaws, but so does Floyd.

[jrosales13]

I didn't said like that!! Dont act like Floyd and Lie!! Here's what Isaid 3 years ago!!

You don't remember us debating that? That is why I don't take you serious. Do you want me to bump the treads when you said Pac would KO both Tito and Leonard because, that version of Oscar is really good?

Call me a liar again and I will bump it.

[Pacdbest]

You don't remember us debating that? That is why I don't take you serious. Do you want me to bump the treads when you said Pac would KO both Tito and Leonard because, that version of Oscar is really good?

Call me a liar again and I will bump it.

Not Here But In ESB!! They banned me there coz I'm owning the Moderators there!! Here's the original thread.

http://www.********boxing.com/forum/...ad.php?t=33608

And Pls.. dont mention the Pac will KO Tito anymore. That's all fantasy fight, Tito in not relevant anymore. He's not that Great anyway.

[wizard king]

BS, man. Manny is a smarter fighter now than he was years ago [even though i don't think he can outsmarting Floyd], but he now know that the game of the sport is more than just speed and power. I used to think he was just a brawler, and recently i did quoted saying he was, but after rewatching his fights from the Marco Antonio Barrera fight to the Joshua Clottey fight, i am now convinced that he's a complete Boxer. Like most complete boxers, he still has flaws, but so does Floyd.

he is still the same fighter he was years ago the only diffrence now is that he is fighting slow ww and at ww you dont see that kind of speed and thats why he is being so suucessful. now what happens when pac speed is matched?his head will be thier to be hit and that alone is enough for me to say its a missmatch and that floyd will make pac look like a fool.
how can you say pac is a complete fighter when pac
1. has no jab
2.cant fight on the inside.
3. his defense is his offense/speed and when you take that away he has no defense
4.has no body punching what so ever
5.has trouble adapting on the fly

people can call me a hater i dont give a dam i still say floyd schools pac.i dont see anything in pac that convieces me that he will beat floyd

[tesla_power]

Skillset is overrated!! Pac has the combination of Pure natural Power and speed. Plus the Skills he learned from Roach.

I'm with pac on this fight but you speak nothing but pac. Its borderline scary. And if you think skillset is overrated, check RJJ ( in his peak, a freak in athleticism and did not develop his skillset ) against Bhop ( very good fundamentals ).

[wizard king]

You don't remember us debating that? That is why I don't take you serious. Do you want me to bump the treads when you said Pac would KO both Tito and Leonard because, that version of Oscar is really good?

Call me a liar again and I will bump it.

you are a liar i want to see that bs

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No Roach really believes that.

This is the second fight in a row that Floyd has went flat footed.

Roach is just ******.