Is Vitali Too Big For Toney To Beat?

[Dark Destroyer]

I think if anyone will beat Vitali it will be James Toney purely because he holds no fear about fighting anyone in the world and he is very talented. Vitali hasn't met slick speed and defensiveness that Toney offers. Vitali has power Toney hasn't felt on the other hand. It would definatly be a interesting fight to see.

[whdempsey]

i am more interested in seeing this fight then vitali against anyone else. the pre fight hype in itself will be hilarious with toney running his mouth about vitali.

I am too. I think most people are. Can't you imagine Klitschko trying to talk back in that thick, thick accent? It would be ****in hilarious.

I do want to see Toney establish himself a little more at heavyweight, but I wanna mention that I also think he deserves a high ranking, based upon his skill and the lack of depth at heavyweight.

[BrooklynBomber]

I think if anyone will beat Vitali it will be James Toney purely because he holds no fear about fighting anyone in the world and he is very talented. Vitali hasn't met slick speed and defensiveness that Toney offers. Vitali has power Toney hasn't felt on the other hand. It would definatly be a interesting fight to see.

I sort of agree with you. But I would lean on Vitaly's side in this match up. One thing that not many see is Vitaly's intelligence. His ability to fight smart fight. This IMO is one of his biggest weapons. BTW Snatch rocks. One of my favorite movies Especially Tony with his .50 Desert Eagle

[Dark Destroyer]

I sort of agree with you. But I would lean on Vitaly's side in this match up. One thing that not many see is Vitaly's intelligence. His ability to fight smart fight. This IMO is one of his biggest weapons. BTW Snatch rocks. One of my favorite movies Especially Tony with his .50 Desert Eagle

LMAO Bullet Tooth Tony kicks ass and i agree with your view about Vitali, he is a think first kind of fighter and very patient.

[Mr. Violence]

either way it will be very entertaining.

[drh]

he is 38 almost and now injury prone. Like I said this fight is not going to happen so why do ppl talk about it so much?

Because he has great PR people.

Gym wars agianst a 170lbs Danny Green - PLEASE. James should have not let that session go longer than 2 rounds. There's no benefit in taking love taps from Danny Green fro 7 rounds.

And like I've said many times, you don't roll your shoulder on a 250lbs beast like Vitali, because that's all you''ll have - a shoulder. Your head would be taken clean off.

[ejk22]

I think if anyone will beat Vitali it will be James Toney purely because he holds no fear about fighting anyone in the world and he is very talented. Vitali hasn't met slick speed and defensiveness that Toney offers. Vitali has power Toney hasn't felt on the other hand. It would definatly be a interesting fight to see.

If you think he holds no fear, then why has he not fought anyone legitimate in the heavyweight division? Before he injured his achilles, he was supposed to fight Mccline, but when he returned from injury he did not fight Mccline, he fought an out of shape drug dealer in Rydell Booker, if he had no fear he should have gone after Mccline again.

[phallus]

Peters is a silly matchup. He's still way too young. The McCline fight isn't a terrible idea, except that he's coming off a respect-eating loss. If Jirov can extablish himself a little, I'm sure that would be a very sellable fight. He needs to beat a super-sized heavyweight. Actually, come to think of it, knocking out the obviously flawed Wladimir Klitschko, and then taking out Lamon Brewster would set up a great back story for a Vitaly-Toney fight. Think about it, Toney doesn't jst take out Vitali's brother, he also destroys Vitali's hope of revenge. It's great.

wh, i like the way u think

[phallus]

I think Vitali wins by easy KO. Toney is not nearly bg enough to hang with Toney. He will jab him to death and then unleash the big right hand for the KO. Like I have said and others as well, Toney just haasn't fought a good heavy yet. I think he would beat Peter due to his ring savy but I think Rock, Vitali and even Ruiz will beat him. Yes I said Ruiz. Just think about it for a minute. Ruiz likes to hug and wrestle with a guy right in front of him. Toney don't do nothing but stay on the ropes against a stronger fighter. Ruiz would smoother him and hug his way to a split decision. Back to the topic at hand. I think Toney is on juice anyway. Just look at the guy. He has gained more muscle mass in his arms and chest than any person I have ever seen that was not on juice. Remember when he went up to cruiser back in the day and he had a butterbean gut and made the weight? Now all the sudden he is ****-deisel at 36 years old and could out bench Ronnie Coleman. I have been a powerlifter and bodybuilder for over 10 years now and the only guys who add that kind of size in that little of time are roided out. That is probably another reason why he keeps getting injured. Your bones and ligaments are not meant to support an enormous amout of weight, especially not if it is gained in a very short time. This is just my opinion but I have been around a while and I am quite sure I am right.

u'd be wise to rememeber one thing about James Toney, when he was a middleweight ( 160 ), in between fights he would balloon up 195 lbs (YES< I SAID 195 LBS), when he moved up to light hw he was up well over 200 in between fights and if he lays off training all togehter he's been up north of 275. Toney is a naturally fat guy, gaining weight has never been his problem, and he doesn't look **** diesel now, he looks more like a powerlifter or one of those world's strongest man guys who have a good mix of muscle and fat. It's just that he looks more muscular lately THAN WE'VE GOT USED TO SEEING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DEHYDRATE HIMSELF TO MAKE WEIGHT ANYMORE

[Hurlex]

i know i am bold to say this..but i dont think VK beat Toney...i think VK OWNS! him...VK would use that long jab and set up big punches all night...and would ko toney around...6th round

i mean like i have said from middlewight on down-height and reach (gatti/ward...and mab/morales prove this right)dont mean anything...but at HW it does..it really does and can f**k u up when the hieght and reach is so different like it would be if these two fight....i mean toney is not even like tyson, tyson atleast would have his strenght to rely on, but toney cant take VK out with one punch...Lewis and sanders cooudnt!

at HW u dont have to have great talent ot boxing ability to be champ..i am not saying VK doesnt have talent..i am just saying in general you dont have to have talent to dominate the HW division