Was Erik Morales in his prime for the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights?

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  • F l i c k e r
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    #251
    Originally posted by T.I.
    pacman got KO'd TWICE before fighting morales..is he shot? wtf is a *******? Yea morales went through wars, yet you forget manny was also a head hunting brawler for most his career. Morales was not prime, which I had already stated, so what's your point? Manny wasn't prime either.. so have one of these


    Wait, wait, wait..... So Manny wasn't prime back then?


    Floyd must be right then. Manny must be on steroids. How can he go from past prime at 130lbs, move up all the way to 140 Kill Hatton, kill Cotto at catchweight, and scare Clottey ****less at 147. Only raises more questions about Pacquiao and steroids if your saying he was past prime against Morales.

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      #252
      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
      Wait, wait, wait..... So Manny wasn't prime back then?


      Floyd must be right then. Manny must be on steroids. How can he go from past prime at 130lbs, move up all the way to 140 Kill Hatton, kill Cotto at catchweight, and scare Clottey ****less at 147. Only raises more questions about Pacquiao and steroids if your saying he was past prime against Morales.

      What he meant is that Pacquaio was still improving and only later did he become a prime fighter. Morales I and Marquez I, Manny only had a big left, no right. He was learning to use his right pre-Morales II fight.

      I hope you understand now what he meant!

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        #253
        No he obviously wasn't, but he looked okay in the second fight and I rate that win fairly highly. I have more of a problem with the weight than his age in that one tbh. The third fight was just overkill though.

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          #254
          Originally posted by ADP02
          What he meant is that Pacquaio was still improving and only later did he become a prime fighter. Morales I and Marquez I, Manny only had a big left, no right. He was learning to use his right pre-Morales II fight.

          I hope you understand now what he meant!

          Okay, fair enough.

          The way he wrote his comment, he was stating all the wars Pacquiao was in and that he was just a head hunting brawler so he wasn't prime either...... You can only make from that post that he meant Pacquiao was past prime.

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            #255
            Originally posted by ADP02
            What he meant is that Pacquaio was still improving and only later did he become a prime fighter. Morales I and Marquez I, Manny only had a big left, no right. He was learning to use his right pre-Morales II fight.

            I hope you understand now what he meant!

            Thanks! Exactly what I meant. I would think that is obvious to any boxing fan..

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              #256
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              Okay, fair enough.

              The way he wrote his comment, he was stating all the wars Pacquiao was in and that he was just a head hunting brawler so he wasn't prime either...... You can only make from that post that he meant Pacquiao was past prime.
              Cool, no problem. You admitted and stated what you thought he had said..... fair statement, that's all one can ask for.... thks!

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                #257
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                Okay, fair enough.

                The way he wrote his comment, he was stating all the wars Pacquiao was in and that he was just a head hunting brawler so he wasn't prime either...... You can only make from that post that he meant Pacquiao was past prime.
                I seen your posts bro.. You're better than that man. He was a super fast head hunting brawler with naturally heavy hands and for that reason he defeated those ATGs. You can't deny though, that pacquiao was NOT the fighter he is now. You already know this. Completely different fighter. He was not shot after the two ko's either.. he's a rare breed that use the ko defeats and loss to morales as inspiration/motivation to prepare much harder. For that reason he is now one of the ATGs.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by T.I.
                  I seen your posts bro.. You're better than that man. He was a super fast head hunting brawler with naturally heavy hands and for that reason he defeated those ATGs. You can't deny though, that pacquiao was NOT the fighter he is now. You already know this. Completely different fighter. He was not shot after the two ko's either.. he's a rare breed that use the ko defeats and loss to morales as inspiration/motivation to prepare much harder. For that reason he is now one of the ATGs.
                  Yeah, I misunderstood. I thought you meant Pacquiao was past his prime at that time. I was sitting here like "wtf?". But I understand what you meant now.

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                    #259
                    Originally posted by T.I.
                    I seen your posts bro.. You're better than that man. He was a super fast head hunting brawler with naturally heavy hands and for that reason he defeated those ATGs. You can't deny though, that pacquiao was NOT the fighter he is now. You already know this. Completely different fighter. He was not shot after the two ko's either.. he's a rare breed that use the ko defeats and loss to morales as inspiration/motivation to prepare much harder. For that reason he is now one of the ATGs.

                    What Floyd fans who hate don't say is how and why Pacquiao won fight 2 against Morales. They just bring up the weight.

                    When Morales stayed away and jabbed well, he did well. When he tried to mix it up with Pac he had trouble. Furthermore, Morales HAD NO DEFENSE for Pac's left hand. That's what made Pacquiao take control, weakened Morales's legs then KOed him.

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                      #260
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      What he meant is that Pacquaio was still improving and only later did he become a prime fighter. Morales I and Marquez I, Manny only had a big left, no right. He was learning to use his right pre-Morales II fight.

                      I hope you understand now what he meant!
                      everyone was saying manny was gonna ko marquez in the rematch because he had improved and what the *** happened after the fight? marquez was robbed and his improvements were bull****, marquez was just better then his ass and still is.

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