Why is holding and hitting such a big deal?

[Steak]

Im serious. The illegal part of holding and hitting is the holding. I think a guy that is holding and hitting shouldnt get in any more trouble than someone who is clinching.

They can both change a fight....its just that one is an offensive tactic while the other is a way for the fighter to BS his way out of an infight.

I mean as long as its not constant and as long as teh guy is doing more hitting than holding...let it happen.

[savorduhflavor]

I think if the guy being held hits it's ok. If the guy is initiating the hold and hitting, he should be penalized.

I really can't stand holding. If I was a ref I wouldn't stand for that ****. Guys like Berto need to be made to fight correctly.

I understand clinching, it's a smart thing to do sometimes, but when your style is predicated on it then it's a problem.

[Steak]

yea, let me clarify:

Clinching to recooperate from damage temporarily is acceptable(to a degree).
Clinching just because the guy got within your range and you dont want to fight your way out of an infight is BS.

I dont think holding and hitting is any worse than the second one. I mean seriously...guys that hold like that spend much more time grabbing than the guy holding and hitting.

as long as it only takes like 1 or 2 seconds of quick grabbing and hitting, Im fine with it.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

yea, let me clarify:

Clinching to recooperate from damage temporarily is acceptable(to a degree).
Clinching just because the guy got within your range and you dont want to fight your way out of an infight is BS.

I dont think holding and hitting is any worse than the second one. I mean seriously...guys that hold like that spend much more time grabbing than the guy holding and hitting.

as long as it only takes like 1 or 2 seconds of quick grabbing and hitting, Im fine with it.

There is separate sport for that Irish. One I do enjoy myself. But boxing should be clinch free. Then we wouldn't see guys like berto, hopkins, and especially hatton make it to the top over guys who fight the right way. Its boxing. All that other ****ery can go. Just my opinion.

[DiegoFuego]

Im serious. The illegal part of holding and hitting is the holding. I think a guy that is holding and hitting shouldnt get in any more trouble than someone who is clinching.

They can both change a fight....its just that one is an offensive tactic while the other is a way for the fighter to BS his way out of an infight.

I mean as long as its not constant and as long as teh guy is doing more hitting than holding...let it happen.

Hatton fan?

[Steak]

There is separate sport for that Irish. One I do enjoy myself. But boxing should be clinch free. Then we wouldn't see guys like berto, hopkins, and especially hatton make it to the top over guys who fight the right way. Its boxing. All that other ****ery can go. Just my opinion.

Theres a difference between what those guys do and someone that just grabs someone to steady them and hits them once or twice and carries on.

Refs should be a LOT less lenient when it comes to clinching imo, but if theyre going to allow guys like Berto to grab as much as they want, they just shouldnt get all wah wah if the other fighter just does a quick grab punch combo. Kind of like what Lennox Lewis used to do, with his grab and right uppercut combo.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Theres a difference between what those guys do and someone that just grabs someone to steady them and hits them once or twice and carries on.

Refs should be a LOT less lenient when it comes to clinching imo, but if theyre going to allow guys like Berto to grab as much as they want, they just shouldnt get all wah wah if the other fighter just does a quick grab punch combo. Kind of like what Lennox Lewis used to do, with his grab and right uppercut combo.

I also thought that was BS too. When you are that big and u resort to holding, that tells me a lot about your skill set. i.e. the klitschkos. But in general that reflects the quality of boxers being forced down our throats. No excuse for holding at all, even when stunned.

[AllEyesOpen]

Im serious. The illegal part of holding and hitting is the holding. I think a guy that is holding and hitting shouldnt get in any more trouble than someone who is clinching.

They can both change a fight....its just that one is an offensive tactic while the other is a way for the fighter to BS his way out of an infight.

I mean as long as its not constant and as long as teh guy is doing more hitting than holding...let it happen.

I honestly don't think it is a big deal, if the ref catches it he'll say something, but very rarely is anything done about it these days, not to mention that if you're good at it then you won't get caught.

[Xercen]

well mayweather was holding like crazy during the fight with mosley...i personally hate holding but the ref allows it for some reason lol

[Frank Ducketts]

Holding and hitting is not boxing. Boxing has rules, and the ref is in there to enforce the rules. Nobody wants to watch someone like Hatton hold and hit all night. People cried when Floyd used his elbow to keep Hatton from holding. You can still punch if someone clinches you, but holding and hitting is out of the question.