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  • mic573
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    #31
    Originally posted by McKay
    ]And Judah is basically a paper champion place keeper at 147 in my mind. 147 is one of the weakest divisions in boxing right now. 140 is the best. That is why Judah went to 147 because he knew he could not compete with Likes of Tzyu Hatton Cotto Gatti Mayweather.
    That doesn't make any sense. You said Hatton beat Tszyu so he should be the champion but you call Judah a paper champion even though he beat who many considered the champion at 147. Since you are going by the ring magazine rules then you have to say Judah is the champion at 147 not the paper champion.

    I think 140 is wide open at the moment. Just because Hatton beat Tszyu doesn't make him the man at the top in my opinion. He hasn't done much at 140, neither has Mayweather or anybody else for that matter. I considered Tszyu the best because he worked to become the best. I think Hatton and Mayweather are leading the pack but they both have to either prove themselves as champions or fight each other to see who is #1.

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      #32
      Originally posted by mic573
      That doesn't make any sense. You said Hatton beat Tszyu so he should be the champion but you call Judah a paper champion even though he beat who many considered the champion at 147. Since you are going by the ring magazine rules then you have to say Judah is the champion at 147 not the paper champion.

      I think 140 is wide open at the moment. Just because Hatton beat Tszyu doesn't make him the man at the top in my opinion. He hasn't done much at 140, neither has Mayweather or anybody else for that matter. I considered Tszyu the best because he worked to become the best. I think Hatton and Mayweather are leading the pack but they both have to either prove themselves as champions or fight each other to see who is #1.
      Tzyu Ko'd Judah in inside of 2 ronds. Tzyu was Undisputed Champion at 140 until very recently. Everybody that has belts at 140 besides Hatton got them because Tzyu vacated them. Your bias and or ******ity has reached such disgusting heights as you are now putting Judah and Tzyu on the same plaine. So easy it is for you to forget apparently Tzyu TKO 2 Judah.

      Tzyu Knocked Judah out in the 2nd round not very long.

      Hatton TKO'd Tzyu less than a month ago.

      Did Cory Spinks rule 147 for a decade? I think not. He got a gift descision vs Mayorga for those belts and then he beat Judah by descison and then Judah beat him in the second fight. Hardly a menacing or accomplished fighter Judah is.
      Last edited by The Troll; 06-27-2005, 08:07 PM.

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        #33
        Is this report even true? Floyd isn't going anywhere. This argument is pointless.

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          #34
          Originally posted by McKay
          Tzyu Ko'd Judah in inside of 2 ronds. Tzyu was Undisputed Champion at 140 until very recently. Everybody that has belts at 140 besides Hatton got them because Tzyu vacated them.

          Tzyu Knocked Judah out in the 2nd round not very long.

          Hatton TKO'd Tzyu less than a month ago.

          Did Cory Spinks rule 147 for a decade? I think not. He got a gift descision vs Mayorga for those belts and then he beat Judah by descison and then Judah beat him in the second fight. Hardly a menacing or accomplished fighter Judah is.
          Hatton isn't a very accomplished fighter himself. Hatton is not #1 in my opinion. Nobody is at the moment. I considered Tszyu the best but just because Hatton beat him doesn't make Hatton the best or the champion. He has to prove himself the way Tszyu did.

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            #35
            Originally posted by mic573
            Hatton isn't a very accomplished fighter himself. Hatton is not #1 in my opinion. Nobody is at the moment. I considered Tszyu the best but just because Hatton beat him doesn't make Hatton the best or the champion. He has to prove himself the way Tszyu did.
            Hatton beat the long reigning, Undisputed, Linear, and Ring Magazine Champ Kostya Tzyu. The man who adminstered a TKO to Judah inside of 6 mineutes. There is no higher accomplishment than that. That is why he is champ. He beat the champ. What else can you do except beat the Champion? Maybe fight Cosme Rivera or Cory Spinks?
            Last edited by The Troll; 06-27-2005, 08:12 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by McKay
              Hatton beat the long reigning, Undisputed, Linear, and Ring Magazine Champ Kostya Tzyu. The man who adminstered a TKO to Judah inside of 6 mineutes. There is no higher accomplishment than that. That is why he is champ. He beat the champ. What else can you do except beat the Champion? Maybe fight Cosme Rivera or Cory Spinks?
              This is one of the reason I don't like the whole Ring Magazine logic. A fighter can have a good night against a great champion like Tszyu and he automatically becomes #1. That doesn't happen in my eyes. Tszyu was a real champion and Hatton hasn't yet proved to me he is a real champion or the #1 guy in the division. All those things you listed are what Tszyu accomplished not Hatton. Hatton beat Tszyu on one night and that doesn't compare to what Tszyu did throughout his career. That's why I say he isn't the true champion. I don't care what Ring Magazine, ESPN, HBO or anyone who believes that kind of logic has to say.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Mikie
                I have read two published reports( most recent from ESPN.com) that PBF could be in the ring as soon as this fall againist WBO Welterweight Champion Antonio Margarito. If this is true, IMO I believe Margarito will stop PBF. The only thing Floyd has in his favor is his speed and that Margarito is a slow starter. I stated that Margarito is a bigger version of Jose Luis Castillo with more boxing skill and power, you know the guy who beat PBF in his first fight at 135 (just the judges did not see it that way) The reason that if I were PFB, I would go after Zab instead this of guy, is that this guy is technically sound, has a chin, and get's get unbelievably stronger as the fight goes on (unlike the fighter at 140). I believe Margarito will stop PBF late. What do all you boxing fans think?
                well floyd fighting margarito then fighitng judah would be cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool..Judah just called mayweather out

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Tzyu Ko'd Judah in inside of 2 ronds. Tzyu was Undisputed Champion at 140 until very recently. Everybody that has belts at 140 besides Hatton got them because Tzyu vacated them. Your bias and or ******ity has reached such disgusting heights as you are now putting Judah and Tzyu on the same plaine. So easy it is for you to forget apparently Tzyu TKO 2 Judah.

                  Tzyu Knocked Judah out in the 2nd round not very long.

                  Hatton TKO'd Tzyu less than a month ago.

                  Did Cory Spinks rule 147 for a decade? I think not. He got a gift descision vs Mayorga for those belts and then he beat Judah by descison and then Judah beat him in the second fight. Hardly a menacing or accomplished fighter Judah is.
                  McGay strikes again!

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                    #39
                    Margarito has a puncher's chance. He is more willing to walk through floyds punches then Gatti did, also for one of the few times in Floyds career if not the only time,

                    Mayweather faces someone with a reach longer than his.

                    I think castillo is more skilled than Margarito is, but i think Margarito is a stronger fighter and puncher. I think his size and all out attack (if there is no otherway) could give PBF problems.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                      Margarito has a puncher's chance. He is more willing to walk through floyds punches then Gatti did, also for one of the few times in Floyds career if not the only time,

                      Mayweather faces someone with a reach longer than his.

                      I think castillo is more skilled than Margarito is, but i think Margarito is a stronger fighter and puncher. I think his size and all out attack (if there is no otherway) could give PBF problems.
                      I think pbf would have a easier time with margarito compared to castillo. Castillo has crisper punches and is not as sloppy

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