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  • DLT
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    How Good Is Tavoris Cloud?

    I like him. I wish the Johnson fight was sooner but whatever. Im interested in seeing how he looks. How do you think he matches up with a Dawson, Hopkins, Calzaghe, and in the future with a Ward, Bute, or Dirrell?
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    He's very good at what he does. I think he has the style and determination to beat Dawson.

    He can be beat by a slick boxer but I think he can crack dawsons chin. Think dawson vs johnson I. Dawson nearly went down. Cloud is a stronger, faster, better, hungrier version of that Johnson.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      He is a fun guy to watch, I think he needs to fight more often but that is a double edged sword he will be sharper and therefore able to accomplish more the downside would be that he would get used up faster considering his punishing style.

      I still don't get why people think Cloud would be issue for Dawson, that always seemed like a bad match-up for a guy like Cloud unless Dawson fights in a way that allows Cloud to be in the fight.

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        I became a huge fan when I saw his fight with Clinton Woods on FNF. Really impressive but he needs to be more active.

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          #5
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981

          I still don't get why people think Cloud would be issue for Dawson, that always seemed like a bad match-up for a guy like Cloud unless Dawson fights in a way that allows Cloud to be in the fight.
          Johnson vs Dawson I. I think that's why. That constant pressure Johnson put on Dawson was a problem and nearly sent him to the canvas a couple times there.

          like I said above, I think cloud is a better version of that Johnson.

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            i was wondering that myself. if u see the woods fight, to me, it's just straight forward all out high speed attack from round 1-12.

            so that means Chad Dawson might give him problems because of his boxing prowess. Hopkins.. would have trouble with the pressure, too old now.
            Calzaghe and Cloud.. damn.. that would be a good fight!

            the others, we'll have to see how they move up, although Dirrell and Ward will give him trouble with good boxing/side to side movement. Bute not too familiar with to judge at all.

            i could be wrong, but i think he's just a powerful boxer, that moves in straight lines and just bumrushes you with speed and power.

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              Does everyone think that he would beat Pascal's ass or could you see him being outboxed?

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                #8
                Originally posted by paulsinghnl
                i was wondering that myself. if u see the woods fight, to me, it's just straight forward all out high speed attack from round 1-12.

                so that means Chad Dawson might give him problems because of his boxing prowess. Hopkins.. would have trouble with the pressure, too old now.
                Calzaghe and Cloud.. damn.. that would be a good fight!

                the others, we'll have to see how they move up, although Dirrell and Ward will give him trouble with good boxing/side to side movement. Bute not too familiar with to judge at all.

                i could be wrong, but i think he's just a powerful boxer, that moves in straight lines and just bumrushes you with speed and power.
                He reminds me of james kirkland in ways, I think that's a good comparison. They both have that intensity about them in the ring and raw hunger and determination which are attributes that are often overlooked in boxing.

                Cloud needs to get in the damn ring though and fight more. Don King may end up ruining his career.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DLT
                  Does everyone think that he would beat Pascal's ass or could you see him being outboxed?
                  I think it would be a good fight but Cloud would be too much for him, too powerful.

                  We gotta see how Cloud vs Glen Johnson goes. It's a nice set up - Dawson beats Pascal, Cloud beats Johnson. Winners fight for The Ring belt at LH.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206
                    Johnson vs Dawson I. I think that's why. That constant pressure Johnson put on Dawson was a problem and nearly sent him to the canvas a couple times there.

                    like I said above, I think cloud is a better version of that Johnson.
                    To me that was a poor fight by Dawson and he could have done a lot better had he fought his fight instead of getting drawn into Johnson's game.

                    If Dawson's tries to make the fight exciting CLoud can win for that very reason, but Dawson should know better than to try something like that again.

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