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  • nomadman
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    How would Vitali have done against this beast?

    Here’s an interesting article I came across on the net.

    Victor Grimski - a forgotten legend of the ring.

    By Gentleman Jim Stewart

    In the long list of great heavyweight champions many fighters can, for one reason or another, get lost by the wayside. Amongst these forgotten legends of the ring, none can be more unjustly overlooked than “Vicious” Victor Grimski.



    The second of thirty-three children, Grimski was born in the former USSR in 1901 and moved to America with his parents when he was only five. The toughness of his native land coupled with his brutal upbringing on the mean streets of pre-Depression era America were to instil in Grimski the sort of toughness and grit that was to stand him in good stead for the majority of his fights. In a career spanning nearly twenty years, Grimski was to amass a record of 41 fights and 40 wins, with an unbelievable 38 of those wins coming by way of knockout.

    “Grimski was a terrific puncher,” writes boxing historian Alan Clevens. “He could send you from one end of the ring to another with the merest flick of his wrist. His punches were like sledgehammers pounding into your cranium. Honestly, it’s a wonder he never killed anyone.”

    Grimski had the near perfect body for fighting. Standing a massive six feet and seven inches tall, with long lean arms, a barrel chest, and nary an ounce of fat on him, Grimski’s muscular physique would put many of today’s heavies to shame. In the ring his size belied an impressive quickness that took many opponents by surprise. He had the ability to throw punches from every angle with concussive force, and was never afraid to fight in the trenches when the situation demanded. His powerful jab coupled with a thunderous right cross could put any fighter on the canvas. In an era of relatively small men, the towering Grimski was like a god amongst mortals. Famed sportswriter of the 30’s Grantland Rice described Grimski as, “an implacable colossus, an unstoppable giant stomping his foes mercilessly into the canvas. There was no one that could match him.”

    Indeed such was the power of Grimski that it caused many ringside observers to begin to wonder whether it was a fair matchup to pit anyone against him. In 1949 a young Bert Sugar, who got to witness a faded but still game Grimski in training later remarked: “I’ve never seen anyone hit the heavybag so hard. The sound was like a dozen artillery shells going off under my fedora. The sheer force of those mammoth fists thudding into the cracked black leather of the Everlast again and again and again was as prodigious a sight as any I‘ve seen in my storied life before or since. His power was unquestionably immense.”

    The toughness of Grimski’s chin was never in question either. HOF legend “Battling” Nellie Sanderson, who hit Grimski with some of his hardest punchers in their epic matchup in 1933, wasn’t able to put a dent in Grimski’s chin despite landing several thunderous blows to the champion‘s grizzled chops. Grimski was to come back in the eighth and brutally knock out the valiant Sanderson with one of the finest displays of two fisted pugilistic brilliance ever put to film. In his next fight against “Steamboat” Sam Peterson, Grimski would unleash a barrage of blows on the overmatched Peterson, forcing the referee to stop the fight after six rounds. His next opponent, John Charles Gumble, would fare little better. After an atypically slow start from the champion, Grimski caught the hapless contender square on the chin, knocking him unconscious.

    Grimski’s lone and tragic defeat would come in 1935 at the hands of “The Overblown Bomber” Leonard Louis. Despite dominating for large stretches of the fight, a cut opened up on Grimski’s face in the third and became progressively worse as the fight wore on. In an incredible display of grit and sheer guts, Grimski hung on to the end of the six when the terrible state of his face forced the doctor and corner to step in and call a halt to the contest. It was a sad state of affairs for the brave Grimski, who was leading on all the scorecards at the end of the fight. For ringside observers, many couldn’t shake the impression that Grimski had been robbed of a chance for victory. It was a sour point in an otherwise unblemished career.


    Grimski’s face at the time of the stoppage.

    Despite his imposing physique, the technical brilliance and athleticism of Grimski was an often ignored virtue. “God what a fighter!” wrote an enthusiastic Nat Fleischer in the 1939 issue of Ring Magazine. “He combines the speed of a panther with the strength of a grizzly. And a fighting brain that could rival any chess master’s. Is there anyone that can stand up to this man?”

    Ring historian Gilbert Odd offers a more sober look at Grimski’s qualities. “His technical skills were greatly underestimated. His ability to control distance was unequalled. His left hand would hang down like a lazy cobra waiting to strike. And when it did, watch out!”

    Indeed, looking at Grimski’s fights one gets the impression not so much of a brutish thug as of a calculating and cold killer. He would bait you in then slip out of the way of your shots before drilling you with his hard right hand. The shot he landed on “Daring” Dan Wilmarth must surely rank as among the single most devastating punches ever thrown in a professional prizefighting ring. Below is a rare sample of footage from one of Grimski’s fights. As you can see from the incredible speed at which he moves and throws punches, Grimski would have been a handful for any fighter in history, including Ali.



    A lot is made about today’s heavyweights being “too big” for the fighters of old. As Grimski amply demonstrates, this is patent nonsense. What fighter of today’s pathetic era combined the sort of quickness and power that Grimski brought to bear? As dominant as the Klitschkos might be, there’s no doubt about it in my mind: had Victor Grimski fought in today’s lacklustre era of overpaid, overfed and overpampered heavyweights he would be a champion several times over.
    Whilst I don’t necessarily agree with the writer on the notion that Grimski could have been a champion in today’s era, I certainly think that he would have given many top fighters like Wlad a really tough time. What say you, fellow boxing fans?
    Last edited by nomadman; 09-22-2010, 04:08 PM.
  • Gojira
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    #2
    according to the writer, this grimski could cause a rift in time with a "flick of a wrist".

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    • intoccabile
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      #3
      This some type of joke?

      it's a black and white vid of vitali vs corrie sanders......

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      • Exocet
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        #4
        Clever article! Had me roped in for a while.

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        • PittyPat
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          #5
          I would love to have seen prime Vitali against Randall Cobb.

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          • cupocity303
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            #6
            Hilarious. Had me goin' for awhile.

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            • REMOVED SHARK 97
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              #7
              Good video.

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              • Tiozzo
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                #8


                haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaa

                nice one

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                • gingeralbino
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                  #9
                  u had me until the pic of his face.

                  edit - and i was thinking the writer made a mistake saying he was born in the USSR in 1901 when the USSR didnt exist until 1917.
                  Last edited by gingeralbino; 05-30-2010, 06:04 PM.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah
                    Here’s an interesting article I came across on the net.



                    Whilst I don’t necessarily agree with the writer on the notion that Grimski could have been a champion in today’s era, I certainly think that he would have given many top fighters like Wlad a really tough time. What say you, fellow boxing fans?
                    Surely that looks like Vitali Klitschko and Sanders. If it isn't, it should be. The exact same moves, although I can't recall which round..The career events seem similiar also.

                    I could be wrong, but feel I'm right. I'd bet that someone will find the answer, as I read on. The article is very professional........

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