Whu Do People SAy Hatton is #1 at 140?

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  • vtamh
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    #21
    I dont get how you guys can say mayweather is the best at 140. Since when does it take 2 fights in a division to be considered number one.??? Yes Hatton has fought a lot of his fights in England, but hes put in a lot more fights. Talent wise, yes mayweather seems to be up there with roy jones, but on paper, come on.....

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    • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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      #22
      Hatton is the No.1 in the division PERIOD.

      There's a World of difference between beating a shop-warn Gatti, and a top shape Tszyu.

      If you can't see how Hatton is No.1 @140lbs then I give up with you.

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      • Bombardier
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        #23
        While I believe (know?) that Mayweather is the better fighter, Hatton is the champ right now fair and square. He beat the most recognized champ in the division and therefore earned his title. Mayweather at the moment is like the up-and-coming team that hasn't had a crack at winning the Superbowl, or whatever championship you want to use as an example here. Even if Floyd is the #1 fighter skill-wise, you still have to go out and win that belt...which I'm sure he will .

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        • moochi
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          #24
          it is still too early to call anyone the top.......i don't see hatton as being the top, and nor do i mayweather............

          was anyone calling vince phillips the number 1 140-lber when he upset Yszyu???.....i don't think so, and this is why i need to see a little more of Hatton to give him such a ranking.

          also i think we need to wait and see what tszyu decides to do before we start calling anyone the top 140lb-er.

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          • GOAT
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            #25
            Is this a trick question? Mayweather hasn't done ANYTHING at 140 to establish himself as #1.

            He looked like a world beater against Gatti, but the key words there are "against Gatti."

            Hatton just beat a guy that almost everyone in the world considered a top 10 P4P fighter who was also THE man, and not just because Ring magazine said so. KT unified the division and beat all comers during his 4 or 5 year reign. The belts that Gatti and Harris held before Saturday night were meaningless. To be #1 at 140, Floyd has to go through Hatton (and that probably means traveling to Manchester).

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            • moochi
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              #26
              Originally posted by GOAT
              Is this a trick question? Mayweather hasn't done ANYTHING at 140 to establish himself as #1.

              He looked like a world beater against Gatti, but the key words there are "against Gatti."

              Hatton just beat a guy that almost everyone in the world considered a top 10 P4P fighter who was also THE man, and not just because Ring magazine said so. KT unified the division and beat all comers during his 4 or 5 year reign. The belts that Gatti and Harris held before Saturday night were meaningless. To be #1 at 140, Floyd has to go through Hatton (and that probably means traveling to Manchester).
              you are right about beating the MAN.........Kostya Tszyu was/is an absolute legend and unified the division the proper way and would have beat about 10 world champions along the way......

              Floyd does have to fight Hatton, and at the same time Hatton has to fight Mayweather also in order to prove his victory over Tszyu wasn't a fluke/bias/old tszyu/etc.....

              it is unfortunate, but i don't think this fight will happen at all......i think both sides will baulk at the conditions...where/when/how/ref/etc.

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              • El Jesus
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                #27
                Originally posted by moochi
                you are right about beating the MAN.........Kostya Tszyu was/is an absolute legend and unified the division the proper way and would have beat about 10 world champions along the way......

                Floyd does have to fight Hatton, and at the same time Hatton has to fight Mayweather also in order to prove his victory over Tszyu wasn't a fluke/bias/old tszyu/etc.....

                it is unfortunate, but i don't think this fight will happen at all......i think both sides will baulk at the conditions...where/when/how/ref/etc.
                I think if it came down to conditions, i think if they fight in MEN, they need to have a known championship calibre ref.

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                • J !
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                  #28
                  YOU MEAN AMERICAN, DAVE PARRIS HAS REFED HUNDREDS OF GENUINE WORLD TITLE FIGHTS.

                  really are we still ****ing on about this?

                  id also like to point out the referees at last weekends fightsd were a ****ing shambles.

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                    #29
                    I agree that they should fight, and also that Floyd is #1...contender to WORLD champion Ricky Hatton.

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by J !
                      YOU MEAN AMERICAN, DAVE PARRIS HAS REFED HUNDREDS OF GENUINE WORLD TITLE FIGHTS.

                      really are we still ****ing on about this?

                      id also like to point out the referees at last weekends fightsd were a ****ing shambles.

                      Yea, he was inexperianced and he ****in ******, the announcers even said it wa sonly his 6th title fight. And yes, we will be ****ing on about this because of the fact that to this day, i still think that ****in fight would have been different without the tactics that were allowed. I dont give a **** what you think about that ref, he let Hatton get away with alot of ****.

                      He won fair and square by the account that he was allowed to do what he needed to do to beat Tszyu, thankfully for hatton, Tszyu needs to be at a distance and needs to be set in position to land his best punches. Dont ****in think i dont think he won, he did, but the fight would have been different with a better ref. Come on, all of the most known refs are usually american, that **** aint my fault.

                      But it wont matter, Mayweather isnt gonna stand there and wait for Hatton for one. For two, Mayweather is faster than Hatton, for 3, Hatton defense will need a massive improvement because if he thinks that hes gonna avoid getting punished with that style, hes gonna hit the canvas hard. Mayweather for some reason fights your fight better than you, he will change up every fight if nessecary and lure you into doing what he wants you to do.

                      If Hatton tries to bully Mayweather, floyd will just do it back, Hatton has alot of heart and all, but this is Mayweather were talking about, that guys defense is virtually inpenetrable.

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