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  • Vadrigar.
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    #71
    Originally posted by -EAGLE-
    You have anny clue about how many ***s went to Israel after WW2?
    ************ were driven out of their land.

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      el Chino
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      #72
      Originally posted by MmuhammadM
      ************ were driven out of their land.
      yes yes we know the story but any clue about how many ***s immigrated to Israel after WW2?

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      • Vadrigar.
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        #73
        Originally posted by -EAGLE-
        yes yes we know the story but any clue about how many ***s immigrated to Israel after WW2?
        yes but what happened before? who was kicked out first?

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        • madsweeney
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          #74
          Originally posted by MmuhammadM
          yes but what happened before? who was kicked out first?
          Well considering there was the Kingdom of Isreal in that region some 1800 years before the creation of the ********* region by the Romans...

          Fact of the matter is before Biblical references that region had pre-modern humans inhabiting the area and it wasn't until about 2000BC that Amorites, Canaanites, and other Semitic people occupied the land. Face it, the Arabic occupation of that land was a relatively small blip in the history of the region.

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          • wazaa.
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            #75
            I like *****. He doesnt blindly support Israel unlike Bush did.

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            • Shattered Jaw
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              #76
              LULz. We could have guessed Wazza's stance.

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                el Chino
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                #77
                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                LULz. We could have guessed Wazza's stance.
                it was easy to predict

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                • ChickenTikka
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by madsweeney
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                  I'm done with this thread, just wanted to provide some backing to my statements before leaving.

                  Thats a blatant quote with no reasoning what so ever. Plus from Wikipedia? I advise you to read the history from here first just to get a flavour
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                  On top of it if you require any details from actual historians who study this subject (and not wikipedia) let me know I have plenty of journals etc

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ChickenTikka
                    Thats a blatant quote with no reasoning what so ever. Plus from Wikipedia? I advise you to read the history from here first just to get a flavour
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                    On top of it if you require any details from actual historians who study this subject (and not wikipedia) let me know I have plenty of journals etc
                    EDIT: look at the source of that quote, coming from the government of Israel itself. I don't even believe what my government tells me let alone Israel

                    "Selected Statistics on Jerusalem Day 2007 (Hebrew)". Israel Central Bureau of Statistics. 2007-05-14. http://www.cbs.gov.il/hodaot2007n/11_07_084b.doc

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                    • omarinbox
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by madsweeney
                      Well considering there was the Kingdom of Isreal in that region some 1800 years before the creation of the ********* region by the Romans...

                      Fact of the matter is before Biblical references that region had pre-modern humans inhabiting the area and it wasn't until about 2000BC that Amorites, Canaanites, and other Semitic people occupied the land. Face it, the Arabic occupation of that land was a relatively small blip in the history of the region.
                      No historical evidence that there actually was a "Kingdom of Israel" *********/Israel today is referred to as Canaan in the bible. Not Israel.

                      On top of this here's some reading from some good ***ish folks:

                      http://www.***ishvoiceforpeace.org/p...cle_1092.shtml
                      Remembering The Nakba On Israel's 60th Anniverary

                      Wisconsin State Journal
                      Friday, May 16, 2008
                      By JUDITH LAITMAN and TSELA BARR
                      This month, ***s around the world are celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel.

                      These celebrations reflect the understandable joy of ***s who view Israel as the symbol of 60 years of freedom from centuries of persecution, culminating in the Holocaust. Nevertheless, we are ***s who will not be celebrating.\ While Israel provided a safe haven for many ***s, the terrible fact is that more than 700,000 ************ were made into refugees to make room for the future state of Israel. Sixty years later, that number has swelled to an estimated 7 million.

                      Many live in 58 registered refugee camps dispersed throughout the Middle East, and some 4 million ************ in the Occupied Territories continue to endure reprehensible collective punishment to this day.

                      That is why the creation of the state of Israel is known as the Nakba, or the Catastrophe to ************.

                      Any peaceful future depends on recognizing both the *********** and the Israeli narrative. And yet, just as the names of more than 400 pre-1948 *********** towns and cities have been deliberately erased from maps, the history of the *********** Nakba itself has been all but erased from consciousness.

                      Surely it is now time to acknowledge the narrative of the other, the price paid by another people for European anti-Semitism and Hitler's genocide.

                      Today, because much of the world has forgotten, we remember that: In April, 1948, the same month as the infamous massacre at Deir Yassin, Plan Dalet was put into operation. It authorized the destruction of *********** villages and the expulsion of the indigenous population outside the borders of the state.

                      On May 22, 1948, ***ish soldiers from the Alexandroni Brigade entered the house of Tantura residents killing between 110-230 *********** men.

                      In July 1948, 70,000 ************ were driven from their homes in Lydda and Ramleh in the heat of the summer with no food or water. Hundreds died. It was known as the Death March.

                      Under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, every person "has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country."

                      Israel has never accepted this basic human right as a basis for peace negotiations, whether by return, compensation, or resettlement.

                      We will not celebrate as long as Israel continues to violate international law, inflicts a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of ****, and continues to deny to ************ their human rights and national aspirations.

                      We cannot participate in celebrations that erase both the history and modern-day injustices experienced by ************. We choose instead to work towards justice and self-determination for both peoples.

                      We will celebrate when Arab and *** live as equals in a peaceful Middle East.

                      Go ***s who know murder and theft are wrong!

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