P4P, lets get real!!

[JUYJUY]

Mayweather is the best fighter in the world right now but to lose the p4p title, you gotta get beat or retire. Hopkins has done neither.

He shouldn't of had it in the first place

[Bozo_no no]

He shouldn't of had it in the first place

Marvin Hagler had it because of his display of longevity and undefeated run as a champion.

No matter who you are, if you win you win the undisputed title and continue to defend it agaisnt everyone available in your devision not ducking anyone, you earn your dues.

It doesn't matter if you don't like his opposition or think he's over hyped, he's a record breaking top middleweight of all time, a sure lock for the hall of fame, and is undefeated in over 12 years in his record breaking reign of Middleweight defences.

He's the top fighter in the sport until he loses, retires, or stops defending against top opponents.

It's really simple. This discussion should be on hold for 2 weeks. If Hopkins beats Taylor, he retains his spot. If he loses Floyd moves up.

[TheGreat1]

Let get real about the P4P ratings, i've been saying Mayweather's the number 1 P4P fighter for years and i hope that people will see sense after that brilliant win.

P4P Hopkins would get whipped by Mayweather!!

I agree, PBF has always been on my #1 P4P

[Run]

Hopkins has come close to being stopped plenty of times against mediocre opposition.

What the **** are you talking about? The closest he has ever been to being stopped.....was against Echols. And the stoppage would have been the result of Hopkins not wanting to continue with his dislocated shoulder. Even at that, it would have resulted in the disqualification of Anton.



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[oldgringo]

Eastman is not a better fighter than Gatti!

Hopkins has come close to being stopped plenty of times against mediocre opposition.

You are the premiere idiot of boxingscene. This post says it all...your knowledge is almost as world class as your boy Hank Wharton.

[CH0ZEN]

Your such a jackass its not even funny.

Like who?


Please tell me who has come close to stoping Bernard Hopkins.

Roy Jones jr

[CH0ZEN]

Lets be honest here, if Roy Jones jr decides to, after whooping Hopkins, he can stick around the middleweight division and beat up on Bernard until people get sick of seeing it and Hopkins runs off to fight someone else for chump change. Instead Roy moves up and Bernard reigns for years. The truth is, no one has ever beaten Floyd, he hasn't ducked anyone, and he keeps moving up. Just like the formed undisputed P4P King had done before him. How can you dispute that?

[Bozo_no no]

Lets be honest here, if Roy Jones jr decides to after whooping Hopkins, he can stick around the middleweight division and beat up on Bernard until people get sick of seeing it and Hopkins runs off to fight someone else for chump change. Instead Roy moves up and Bernard reigns for years. The truth is, no one has ever beaten Floyd, he hasn't ducked anyone, and he keeps moving up. Just like the formed undisputed P4P King had done before him. How can you dispute that?

Marvin Hagler had it because of his display of longevity and undefeated run as a champion.

No matter who you are, if you win you win the undisputed title and continue to defend it agaisnt everyone available in your devision not ducking anyone, you earn your dues.

It doesn't matter if you don't like his opposition or think he's over hyped, he's a record breaking top middleweight of all time, a sure lock for the hall of fame, and is undefeated in over 12 years in his record breaking reign of Middleweight defences.

He's the top fighter in the sport until he loses, retires, or stops defending against top opponents.

It's really simple. This discussion should be on hold for 2 weeks. If Hopkins beats Taylor, he retains his spot. If he loses Floyd moves up.

[elveiel]

Marvin Hagler had it because of his display of longevity and undefeated run as a champion.

No matter who you are, if you win you win the undisputed title and continue to defend it agaisnt everyone available in your devision not ducking anyone, you earn your dues.

It doesn't matter if you don't like his opposition or think he's over hyped, he's a record breaking top middleweight of all time, a sure lock for the hall of fame, and is undefeated in over 12 years in his record breaking reign of Middleweight defences.

He's the top fighter in the sport until he loses, retires, or stops defending against top opponents.

It's really simple. This discussion should be on hold for 2 weeks. If Hopkins beats Taylor, he retains his spot. If he loses Floyd moves up.

The same could be said for Joe Calzaghe, he owns super middle and has done for many years but isnt on most people P4P ranking. Infact Hopkins could step up and fight him, that would be an option for his lack of quality opponents but he keeps turning him down.

You cant take away from Mayweather just because Hopkins hasnt had the opponents. Mayweather didnt have the opponents but went looking for them, because of that he's easily P4P number 1 over Hopkins.

[CH0ZEN]

Marvin Hagler had it because of his display of longevity and undefeated run as a champion.

No matter who you are, if you win you win the undisputed title and continue to defend it agaisnt everyone available in your devision not ducking anyone, you earn your dues.

It doesn't matter if you don't like his opposition or think he's over hyped, he's a record breaking top middleweight of all time, a sure lock for the hall of fame, and is undefeated in over 12 years in his record breaking reign of Middleweight defences.

He's the top fighter in the sport until he loses, retires, or stops defending against top opponents.

It's really simple. This discussion should be on hold for 2 weeks. If Hopkins beats Taylor, he retains his spot. If he loses Floyd moves up.

Hello; McFly.
Dude Hopkins has been dominating at this weight class; true. But he inheirited the middleweight division only after Roy left (with an unbeaten track record). True his reign is unreal. And I believe Hopkins showed he still has it by easily beating Oscar. And furthermore Bernard is aging and his best P4P days are behind him so if he does lose to Taylor which I doubt he will, much like Roy Jones jr he will always remain one of boxings greatest champions. I for one am a huge Hopkins fan and don't think he has ducked anyone either. But do not forget that where Bernard has had his ass handed to him, Mayweather has not. And judging on the physical conditioning of Floyd and his mastery of the sweet science, this guy is not only for real, but maybe able to get the kinda respect Sugar Ray Robinson's skill demanded. How good will Floyd become, only time will tell. But time has already told us this guy is the real P4P champion in boxing today.