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  • FRANKGWJ
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ekscape
    first of all.... Everyone is speaking off of hear say, no one from Floyd or Manny camp have come out and confirmed that Floyd wants more money now

    Second of all.... Your argument is flawed because, though Clottey-Pac didn't have a 24/7 you can go back to the Cotto fight and Floyd still out sold that one as well

    And lastely.... Floyd has always made it quite clear that he's all about the business and money and cares very little about legacy so he has the higher ppv numbers and history so of course he's gonna try to maximize his funds...
    Soo if Manny is all about legacy like how some people claim then Floyd wanting more money wouldn't effect the negotiations at all and Manny would comply... But the fact is Manny cares about the money just as much as Floyd does
    I just corrected the error I made in my thread!

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    • DR.ORGYY
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      #12
      **** em.......

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      • Boxingholic
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Comedian
        I can agree with you that Pac didnt have a dance member in Clottey. But if you look at it like this.

        Floyd v No Dance Partner = 1,000,000

        Pac v No Dance Partner = 700,000

        Floyd v Dance Partner = 1,400,000

        Pac v Dance Partner = 1,200,000
        You do realized every Flyod fight they had to spent an arm and leg for all the promotions, ads, 24/7. Like the Mayweather vs Mosley which only did over 1M ppv buys and Schaffer was expecting over 3M buys since they spent so much money for the fight and it turn out to be a total failure!!!
        You do realized all this ads are not free and the fight has to do really good to make up for money spent?

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        • Prime 407
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          #14
          It should be 50-50, be honest guys.

          - Both guys are arguably sharing p4p #1 status
          - Both have huge fan bases
          - Both generate good PPV figures
          - Both could never make as much money in one fight without the other

          NOW JUST MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT!!!!!

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          • The Comedian
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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxingholic
            You do realized every Flyod fight they had to spent an arm and leg for all the promotions, ads, 24/7. Like the Mayweather vs Mosley which only did over 1M ppv buys and Schaffer was expecting over 3M buys since they spent so much money for the fight and it turn out to be a total failure!!!
            You do realized all this ads are not free and the fight has to do really good to make up for money spent?
            you do realize that spending 8 million dollars on advertisement and receiving 60 million to go into the company bank account is not a failure. You should take some business and marketing classes if you ever want to further your education.

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            • boxaholic
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              #16
              Originally posted by The Comedian
              I can agree with you that Pac didnt have a dance member in Clottey. But if you look at it like this.

              Floyd v No Dance Partner = 1,000,000

              Pac v No Dance Partner = 700,000

              Floyd v Dance Partner = 1,400,000

              Pac v Dance Partner = 1,200,000


              Now you could argue that Pac v Clottey didnt have a 24/7, but what good would a 24/7 would have done when Clottey has no personalty and has no compelling back ground story. They still had a countdown show which compensated for the 24/7 and the big selling point of the whole event was the fact that it was taking place at the cowboys stadium.
              That said the only comparison can truely be made by the opposition that they both faced.

              Cotto is a bigger draw IMO than Mosley yet Floyd vs Mosley out did them by 150k

              Floyd did better #s against the same opposition
              Floyd >Hatton
              Floyd > De La Hoya
              Floyd >JMM

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              • Forza
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                #17
                Floyd attracts more PPV sales so 55 45 is very fair

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                • jrv1932
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by peekabooboxing
                  if floyd could make money fighting anyone he would
                  after all he is in it for the $$$$

                  but he has needed oscar and mosley to come out of their rocking
                  chairs so that he could make some money .. mosley is probbaly
                  in his retirement home now enjoying his money.

                  tyson could fight anyone and people would watch
                  but maywaether ? the most excitmeneet for him is before the fight
                  once the fight starts its the same routine ....

                  floyd always needs a dance partner because his fights are boring
                  in fact in the mosley fight the only excitement was in round 2
                  and that was because of mosley ...
                  If oscar was in a rocking chair when floyd fought him at 154 what the hell was he when manny fought him at 147? A corpse?

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                  • boxing_pundit85
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by peekabooboxing
                    if floyd could make money fighting anyone he would
                    after all he is in it for the $$$$

                    but he has needed oscar and mosley to come out of their rocking
                    chairs so that he could make some money .. mosley is probbaly
                    in his retirement home now enjoying his money.

                    tyson could fight anyone and people would watch
                    but maywaether ? the most excitmeneet for him is before the fight
                    once the fight starts its the same routine ....

                    floyd always needs a dance partner because his fights are boring
                    in fact in the mosley fight the only excitement was in round 2
                    and that was because of mosley ...
                    yeah he should lose more rounds to make his fights more exciting. maybe he should get knocked down more too.

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                    • jrv1932
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Comedian
                      you do realize that spending 8 million dollars on advertisement and receiving 60 million to go into the company bank account is not a failure. You should take some business and marketing classes if you ever want to further your education.
                      True plus i guess this guy doesnt understand that sponsors pretty much pay for all advertising expenses. I mean you dont think tecate tecate gets their name in the ring for free do you? I mean even the movie iron man 2 was on the ring posts. This fight made a lot of money.

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