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  • Vito Corleone
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    #131
    THIS IS MY CONCERN:

    Manny Pacquiao said that he is willing to go up to 14 days "as long as the amount of blood taken is not to large". This condition has been overlooked. Also, what is the frequency that Pac will agree to?
    For example: Mayweather gave blood three times within a 3-week period. Is manny OK with giving Blood four or five times in a month? If he is legitimately bothered by the process, I can see how a weekly blood draw would be discomforting.

    And, is there a standard amount that is taken for a drug test? What is that amount? Does Manny consider that amount too large?

    It just seems to me that Bob Arum is doing a lot of criticizing, but very little self-education, and very little education of his fighter.

    Six months after the initial requests, there should be a greater amount of knowledge and certainty within the Pacquiao camp. Don't you agree?

    I know that the WADA standard is about a teaspoon of blood. I also concede that I saw a couple of vials sitting on the table (during 24/7) that definitely appeared to be more than a teaspoon.

    Manny said OK to 14 days. With conditions. Let's not all get too excited until we understand what those conditions are. A lot remains up in the air.

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    • Prime 407
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      #132
      Originally posted by Vito Corleone
      THIS IS MY CONCERN:

      Manny Pacquiao said that he is willing to go up to 14 days "as long as the amount of blood taken is not to large". This condition has been overlooked. Also, what is the frequency that Pac will agree to?
      For example: Mayweather gave blood three times within a 3-week period. Is manny OK with giving Blood four or five times in a month? If he is legitimately bothered by the process, I can see how a weekly blood draw would be discomforting.

      And, is there a standard amount that is taken for a drug test? What is that amount? Does Manny consider that amount too large?

      It just seems to me that Bob Arum is doing a lot of criticizing, but very little self-education, and very little education of his fighter.

      Six months after the initial requests, there should be a greater amount of knowledge and certainty within the Pacquiao camp. Don't you agree?

      I know that the WADA standard is about a teaspoon of blood. I also concede that I saw a couple of vials sitting on the table (during 24/7) that definitely appeared to be more than a teaspoon.

      Manny said OK to 14 days. With conditions. Let's not all get too excited until we understand what those conditions are. A lot remains up in the air.
      Dude give it up, 14 days is fair... check the poll in the other thread.

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      • Vito Corleone
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        #133
        Originally posted by Sin City
        he does raise a good question.. sounds fishy. he said it was up until the fight.. but it wasnt. Mayweather has the USADA in his pocket. for all we know he did use xyclocaine and steroids. if he don't take this 14 day **** with pacquiao, he's a coward. i mean for all we know he already juiced for mosley.. what's 14 days to him with pacquiao?
        It's OK to malign the integrity of these professionals...right?

        U.S. Anti-Doping Agency Board of DirectorsRalph W. Hale, M.D. (Chair); Richard W. Cohen, M.D. (Vice Chair); Barry Axelrod (Treasurer); Annette Salmeen, Ph.D. (Secretary); Evelyn Ashford; Lawrence S. Brown Jr., M.D., M.P.H. FASAM; Jean Fourcroy, M.D., Ph.D., M.P.H.; Donald Gambril; Andrew Mecca, Dr. PH, M.P.H.; and Carl Swenson.


        This is exactly how Pac fans get upset if anybody accuses Pac of anything unethical, but then turn around and accuse Shane Mosley and Naazim Richardson of fixing the Mayweather fight.

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        • mrdeewill
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          #134
          we're quoting Victor Conte now? wow!! The guy who invented all of those undetectable steriods, is saying it's a good thing that manny has agreed to a 14 day window.Who cares what he has to say.
          Random testing is random testing, no cut off dates. A lot of you guys are losing sight of that fact. you cannot schedule random tests. Over the past few months Manny has lost any leverage he has on the issue. More and more boxer are coming out in support of it, the NSAC is considering switching to more stringent testing, the public is overwhelmingly in support of it, Floyd's PPV numbers are higher, Floyd fought the lineal welterweight champ and nearly shut him out, Pac wouldn't fight Mosley. All of this posturing in the media is a poor veiled attempt to pre-emptively place blame should the fight not take place. Funny how Arum already has a date, site and opponent already picked out for Manny.

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          • check hook
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            #135
            Originally posted by Vito Corleone
            It's OK to malign the integrity of these professionals...right?

            U.S. Anti-Doping Agency Board of DirectorsRalph W. Hale, M.D. (Chair); Richard W. Cohen, M.D. (Vice Chair); Barry Axelrod (Treasurer); Annette Salmeen, Ph.D. (Secretary); Evelyn Ashford; Lawrence S. Brown Jr., M.D., M.P.H. FASAM; Jean Fourcroy, M.D., Ph.D., M.P.H.; Donald Gambril; Andrew Mecca, Dr. PH, M.P.H.; and Carl Swenson.


            This is exactly how Pac fans get upset if anybody accuses Pac of anything unethical, but then turn around and accuse Shane Mosley and Naazim Richardson of fixing the Mayweather fight.

            shut up you stoopid *****....don't you know Floozy controls everything??....he has USADA in his back pocket ...the Mosley fight was fixed......fixed i tells ya.......it's all a big conspiracy to bring down the Hero of Asia.....why don't u stoopid *****s get this...******, ******, ******....****ing Fraud Poopweather Jr is trying to blood drain Pac.........

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            • V.WEBB
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              #136
              Originally posted by Vito Corleone
              It's OK to malign the integrity of these professionals...right?

              U.S. Anti-Doping Agency Board of DirectorsRalph W. Hale, M.D. (Chair); Richard W. Cohen, M.D. (Vice Chair); Barry Axelrod (Treasurer); Annette Salmeen, Ph.D. (Secretary); Evelyn Ashford; Lawrence S. Brown Jr., M.D., M.P.H. FASAM; Jean Fourcroy, M.D., Ph.D., M.P.H.; Donald Gambril; Andrew Mecca, Dr. PH, M.P.H.; and Carl Swenson.


              This is exactly how Pac fans get upset if anybody accuses Pac of anything unethical, but then turn around and accuse Shane Mosley and Naazim Richardson of fixing the Mayweather fight.
              Its unbelievable to say the least.

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              • V.WEBB
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                #137
                Originally posted by check hook
                shut up you stoopid *****....don't you know Floozy controls everything??....he has USADA in his back pocket ...the Mosley fight was fixed......fixed i tells ya.......it's all a big conspiracy to bring down the Hero of Asia.....why don't u stoopid *****s get this...******, ******, ******....****ing Fraud Poopweather Jr is trying to blood drain Pac.........

                Floozy? Poopweather? Classic ******ness! LOL.

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                • check hook
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                  Its unbelievable to say the least.


                  bahhhhh!!! COACH WEBB another member of the ***** fraternity conspiring against our hero.....

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                  • Duckweather
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                    #139
                    by criticising usada you will only make the tests harder on Manny. they gonna drain that blood the night before because of this. lol

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                    • badecisioncotto
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                      #140
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                      Originally posted by check hook
                      shut up you stoopid *****....don't you know Floozy controls everything??....he has USADA in his back pocket ...the Mosley fight was fixed......fixed i tells ya.......it's all a big conspiracy to bring down the Hero of Asia.....why don't u stoopid *****s get this...******, ******, ******....****ing Fraud Poopweather Jr is trying to blood drain Pac.........




                      u forgot 7 division champion, FOTD and pound for pou.......oh wait.

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