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  • shogunn
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    #91
    Originally posted by Ray*
    They are not tested out of competition dates, Thats entirely another tree that you are barking on..
    yes, thanks for repeating what I said, that was very productive.

    Benefits of steroids, PEDS, are most beneficial during training. For all we know floyd is roiding since he's not being "randomly" tested, according to NSAC standards.

    14 days before the fight isnt ****. Muscle gains take months, not 14 days.

    So floyd fans are worried mostly about 14 days because Manny is. Its illogical and is currently holding up the fight.

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    • Ray*
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      #92
      Originally posted by shogunn
      yes, thanks for repeating what I said, that was very productive.

      Benefits of steroids, PEDS, are most beneficial during training. For all we know floyd is roiding since he's not being "randomly" tested, according to NSAC standards.

      14 days before the fight isnt ****. Muscle gains take months, not 14 days.

      So floyd fans are worried mostly about 14 days because Manny is. Its illogical and is currently holding up the fight.
      Out of date competition is very hard in boxing, Most top boxer fights once of twice in a year so your idea that out of competion dates is faulty mate..

      The time a boxer would want to use any performance enhancing drugs would be within the 2 months of a fight schedule fight, and it doesnt take a genius to figure that out, Now most sprinters would probably use it a bit more than a boxer because they are invovlve in countless competition over a year.

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      • BritishBoxing92
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        #93
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        A former Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board Chairman and Chief Ringside Physician who has worked more than 400 fights, Margaret Goodman generally applauds the United States Anti-Doping Agency's inagural overseeing of a random blood and urine system for detecting steroids and other illegal drugs in boxers.

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        18 day window deal with the shane-floyd fight? now that pac has accepted the 14 day window deal and apparently floyd says that its an "expired deal" he will be foolish to turn it down since he just did a 18 day window deal testing with shane when he was fighting him

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        • shogunn
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          #94
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Out of date competition is very hard in boxing, Most top boxer fights once of twice in a year so your idea that out of competion dates is faulty mate..

          The time a boxer would want to use any performance enhancing drugs would be within the 2 months of a fight schedule fight, and it doesnt take a genius to figure that out, Now most sprinters would probably use it a bit more than a boxer because they are invovlve in countless competition over a year.
          haha, out of competition is hard in boxing? wtf is the difference? its probably harder 1 month before a fight because of how busy you are


          and no 2 months is not a good number you just made up. Some boxers lift and make gains way before training camp. Then STOP lifting during boxing training. So youre wrong there.

          Lets be honest, you dont support out of competition testing because floyd isnt in it. You guys are more scared of someone roiding in 14 days and gaining miraculously 20lbs of muscle.

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            #95
            Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
            18 day window deal with the shane-floyd fight? now that pac has accepted the 14 day window deal and apparently floyd says that its an "expired deal" he will be foolish to turn it down since he just did a 18 day window deal testing with shane when he was fighting him
            There is a difference mate... There was NO 18 days deal

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              #96
              Originally posted by shogunn
              haha, out of competition is hard in boxing? wtf is the difference? its probably harder 1 month before a fight because of how busy you are


              and no 2 months is not a good number you just made up. Some boxers lift and make gains way before training camp. Then STOP lifting during boxing training. So youre wrong there.

              Lets be honest, you dont support out of competition testing because floyd isnt in it. You guys are more scared of someone roiding in 14 days and gaining miraculously 20lbs of muscle.
              I dont give a toss if they do out of competition testing to be honest. But when a fight is schedule then they need to have a window or a period of time when they would be tested, another thing is no athlete is 100% natural, they all take something..

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                #97
                Originally posted by Ray*
                I dont give a toss if they do out of competition testing to be honest. But when a fight is schedule then they need to have a window or a period of time when they would be tested, another thing is no athlete is 100% natural, they all take something..

                and youre worried about these 14 days? even though theres more benefits of steroid use months before, and not days before? haha.

                You guys really changed your tune. Now youre more worried about a little window instead of the big picture.

                floyd really has you guys by the balls. When he says jump...

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Firstly, What MD or PhD got to do with my post? and why the definition of it in your reply to my post?

                  Secondly, having a cut-off date is telling an athlete when you're going to stop testing, Having no cut-off date (Random) is when the athlete knows you have the power to test them at anytime so they wouldnt be able to risk getting caught by taking something they are not suppose to.

                  If its tru that USADA didnt test Mayweather and Mosley 18 days before the fight both fighter wouldnt know because they would think the USADA would show up at anytime....RAndom mate.
                  The MD, PhD thing wasn't directly related to you, it was directly related to a poster who responded to you, and who's remarks you found so insightful as to highlight and bold them, including the PhD part.

                  And you obviously either didn't read or understand my post very well (though probably both), because this isn't a response, just restatements of the same generalizations which are driving your own knee-jerk reactions.

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                    #99
                    HA .... puk puk putak bok bok botak .... random blood testing up to the night before the fight .... puk puk putak bok bok botak .... floyd jr. should be tested with hemorrhoids instead .... ....

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                    • Ray*
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by shogunn
                      and youre worried about these 14 days? ...


                      No! I couldnt care less about the 14 days, I dont like the non-random part of the testing though. I didnt like the fact that they wanted a cut-off date.

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