Manny Pacquiao is WASTING HIS TIME!

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  • pasawayako
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    #51
    Originally posted by Cash Cow
    any REAL FAN of boxing knows this....
    Thanks for confirming that you're not a fan of boxing because it seems like don't want this fight to happen......

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    • jrosales13
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      #52
      Originally posted by LeeBaby
      great come back.."Manny vs Marquez holds the record and i wouldnt know that because im new to the sport". I hear that one often. Well Floyds been on PPV 8 times and 24/7 4 times. Floyd career goes back all the way to his olympic days. It took him one year after turning pro to become world champ & has been champ since as well as dominating weight classes. Yo boy on the other hand was getting ko with body shots back in the day. But i wouldnt know that cuz i just tuned in!
      You really did just tune in to the sport. Because, you would of known that Pac was a lineal champion in one of the original 8 weight-class back in the the late 90's, he won his first lineal champion and that is the real title and also the WBC title when he was a teenager.

      But, again you do not know that. Since you just barely tuned in to the sport. You have not followed it long enough. Get some more knowledge and then comeback to me.

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      • Cash Cow
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        #53
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Yes please read very carefully to your 2nd paragraph. Because, I will not keep answering this question 4 times.

        Are you ******ed? Can't you read?
        JR you have yet to give me a REASON why YOU think there should be a cut off, not from the mouths of Arum, Roach or Top Rank.....

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          #54
          Originally posted by Cash Cow
          your answers are sarcastic at Best..... when you want to give me a real reason for the need for a cut off then we can debate...you have yet to do that....
          Why does anybody need a cutoff date? So they can dope up right?

          Now since he would be doping up for those 14 days would you make him a favorite to beat Floyd?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Cash Cow
            JR you have yet to give me a REASON why YOU think there should be a cut off, not from the mouths of Arum, Roach or Top Rank.....
            For the 5th time, so HE CAN DOPE UP.

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            • Cash Cow
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              #56
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              You really did just tune in to the sport. Because, you would of known that Pac was a lineal champion in one of the original 8 weight-class back in the the late 90's, he won his first lineal champion and that is the real title and also the WBC title when he was a teenager.

              But, again you do not know that. Since you just barely tuned in to the sport. You have not followed it long enough. Get some more knowledge and then comeback to me.
              his first 34 fights before coming to america, he was 34-2 fighting bums and getting knocked out by bums

              LMAO@ Lineal.......Fact is Pac NEVER beat a fighter in his prime...the closest thing he has been to beating as fighter in his prime is the 1st Barrera fight....

              **** outa here with this lineal bull****

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              • littlemac
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                #57
                Originally posted by Cash Cow
                your answers are sarcastic at Best..... when you want to give me a real reason for the need for a cut off then we can debate...you have yet to do that....
                The sad thing about his sarcastic answer is that it actually makes more sense then what his own serious arguement is lol...........These so called Pac fans are a freaking joke.

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                • Cash Cow
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Why does anybody need a cutoff date? So they can dope up right?

                  Now since he would be doping up for those 14 days would you make him a favorite to beat Floyd?
                  again I will await your LOGICAL reasoning....

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                  • hanzoh74
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Cash Cow
                    Wait what excuses did Mayweather use?


                    BELOW ARE A LIST OF MANNYS Excuses...

                    December 11:

                    Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

                    December 14:

                    Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


                    December 22:

                    Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

                    Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

                    In that same day,

                    Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

                    How is HGH test done?

                    More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



                    December 23:

                    Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

                    Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


                    December 24:

                    Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

                    December 25:

                    Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

                    NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

                    This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


                    December 26:

                    Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

                    December 28

                    Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

                    December 30:

                    Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


                    David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

                    Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

                    David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

                    Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

                    David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

                    Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

                    David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

                    Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






                    So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

                    Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

                    Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general.


                    OK NOW GO KILL YOURSELF!!
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                    the problem with u *****s that its funny u have selective hearing...u only believe in some ppl sayings if its appropriate for ur cause....now if Roach ,Arum etc did say something bad for ur girl FMJ u will dismiss them as liars like what u did with Arum when he revealed the 18-dau cutoff during the FMJ-Mosley fight....losers!!

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                    • Hi-Dro
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                      #60
                      May doesn't want this fight. He fears Pac

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