Should high altitude training be banned as well since it gives the same benefits as..

[frankenfrank]

And note that even if you prohibit training at high altitude , it can be emulated by training in oxygen reduced rooms or in pressure cells.
So , it will be very stupid to prohibit.
It starts to appear as if training at high altitude is better than EPO , and as I thought , maybe EPO should be allowed.

[Deevel916]

Its safe to say its not the same as actually TAKING a drug. No it shouldnt be banned.

Thats like saying weight lifting shiuld be banned because it build muscles like some PEDS do.

No way.

Ped's give u the ABILITY to lift more weights, therefore creating more muscle. PED's alone just dont give u muscles.

Bad comparo.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ped's give u the ABILITY to lift more weights, therefore creating more muscle. PED's alone just dont give u muscles.

Bad comparo.

Um no it wasnt.

Working out alone doesnt increase EPO.

Working out in high altitudes will.

Whats next? Banning protein powder? Using weighted gloves? Running in cold weather? Running in sweatsuits?

This is ridiculous.

[Deevel916]

Um no it wasnt.

Working out alone doesnt increase EPO.

Working out in high altitudes will.

Whats next? Banning protein powder? Using weighted gloves? Running in cold weather? Running in sweatsuits?

This is ridiculous.

I'm not advocating for banning high altitude training. Not at all. All i'm saying is......If EPO is banned, and it gives u the same exact benefits as HAT, should that be banned as well? Its a pretty valid question and makes for an interesting discussion. This is a forum right?

[cortdawg25]

High altitude training is natural!!! It is not injected or artificially made. It is not 1 and the same as epo. Your body actually has to adapt and respond to the altitude naturally mind u...with epo your body adapts to artificial injections which makes it unnatural

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I'm not advocating for banning high altitude training. Not at all. All i'm saying is......If EPO is banned, and it gives u the same exact benefits as HAT, should that be banned as well? Its a pretty valid question and makes for an interesting discussion. This is a forum right?

Nope your're wrong bro. It doesnt give you the SAME EXACT benefits. Its no different than doing exercises that increase HGH like sprinting. Its not even close to taking the actual drugs.

Which is why taking the drugs are illegal and working out isnt. The drugs only exist because people realized you could concentrate it and make it stronger and more potent.

[Nuurzhaelan]

EPO.

"In high altitudes, the amount of oxygen in the blood is reduced because there's less oxygen in the air. To compensate for reduction of oxygen in the air, the kidneys secrete more of a hormone called erythropoietin, which causes the body to create more red blood cells"


Erythropoietin (EPO): A hormone produced by the kidney that promotes the formation of red blood cells in the bone marrow

No and let us not get ridiculous. P.E.D.s are deplorable in part because they are short routes to victory. If a fighter wants to put forth the effort and has the physical talents to endure that kind of training and derive benefit from it, more power to him. What you are suggesting is a bit myopic as you seem to believe that advantages gained naturally or through hard work are somehow congruent to cheating. Proper nutrition, sweat and initiative to push the envelope should not be considered cheating. Fussing with the body's chemistry or adding something to gloves SHOULD be.

It is definitely an issue that PEDs push a fighter beyond human limits. It is also the issue the short route to victory that makes them deplorable, even if that short route does not exceed the boundaries of normal human performance.

[100%BoXeOAzTeKa]

Its safe to say its not the same as actually TAKING a drug. No it shouldnt be banned.

Thats like saying weight lifting shiuld be banned because it build muscles like some PEDS do.

No way.

Good example

[Deevel916]

Good example

How is it a good example? Since when does PED's alone build muscle?
U have to work out while on PED's in order to obtain the benefits of PED's. If not, a body builder would just sit home taking ped's while sitting on his couch.

[madsweeney]

High altitude training is natural!!! It is not injected or artificially made. It is not 1 and the same as epo. Your body actually has to adapt and respond to the altitude naturally mind u...with epo your body adapts to artificial injections which makes it unnatural

Actually if you want to get picky, high altitude training is only natural if you live in high altitudes. Its not natural to train in pressure chambers and/or fly hundreds/thousands of miles to a specific area to train in. Its using technology to benefit your training. A similar argument can be made for EPO.

Not saying EPO should be allowed but I see the TS's point