hypoxic training yields the same results as using EPO--- FACT!

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By that logic, Floyd could be juicing Ellerbe's nut's off in his long lay-offs and the Mayweather style OST wouldn't catch **** (according to Conte).

Like Conte said, anyone at the elite could be juicing and the Mayweather/Mosley testing was insufficient in proving either are clean.

Yep but its not Floyd saying no random testing , Floyd will accept any test known to man for PEDS use , Pac wont thats the difference .

Pac saying no casts the biggest su****ion in the whole deal lol , you blame Floyd for asking and praise Pac for saying no test , get real buddy lol

[dr.x]

No news here. EPO artificially generates the excess amount of red blood cells that is acheived with prolonged stays in altitude.

Some athletes, particularly cross-country skiers and cyclist, sleeps in pressurized chambers to gain the extra red blood cells 'naturally'. This method is just much more inconvienient and much more expensive than injections of EPO.

you are right . EPO is a natural hormone that is secreted by the kidneys into the blood in hypoxic conditions ( training on altitudes where there is low oxygen atmospheric pressure ) to increase red blood cell counts , making the blood able to carry more oxygen and hence enhance the stamina of the athletes .
but the point is that the body secretes indigenous EPO only to the level of compensation to overcome the hypoxic condition . by injection of artificial EPO they can reach higher values i think . anyway , i need to fing a study about that .

[BattlingNelson]

you are right . EPO is a natural hormone that is secreted by the kidneys into the blood in hypoxic conditions ( training on altitudes where there is low oxygen atmospheric pressure ) to increase red blood cell counts , making the blood able to carry more oxygen and hence enhance the stamina of the athletes .
but the point is that the body secretes indigenous EPO only to the level of compensation to overcome the hypoxic condition . by injection of artificial EPO they can reach higher values i think . anyway , i need to fing a study about that .

That's true. The problem is that the amount of natural EPO is different from individual to individual. That's why the international cycling federation has set a limit of the hematochrit (ie. red blood cells) to 50%. It's set for health reasons only (thickness of blood) and is not a litmus test for EPO doping, but can perhaps be indicative at most.

[Prime 407]

Yep but its not Floyd saying no random testing , Floyd will accept any test known to man for PEDS use , Pac wont thats the difference .

Pac saying no casts the biggest su****ion in the whole deal lol , you blame Floyd for asking and praise Pac for saying no test , get real buddy lol

No, Floyd has never accepted full random testing. He accepted a modifed mayweather version of OST which consisted of 3 blood tests starting from 5 weeks out from the fight and cut-off at 18 days . Floyd has never undergone FULL OST.

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this training together with high tech nutrition can make super athletes.



there you go, from the horse's mouth himself.....

but i won't be surprised if *****s carries on with their ruthless accusations towards pacman

are you really that ******???.....comparing a synthetic blood booster to high altitude training benefits......keyword moreon....SOME!!!!

[check hook]

you are right . EPO is a natural hormone that is secreted by the kidneys into the blood in hypoxic conditions ( training on altitudes where there is low oxygen atmospheric pressure ) to increase red blood cell counts , making the blood able to carry more oxygen and hence enhance the stamina of the athletes .
but the point is that the body secretes indigenous EPO only to the level of compensation to overcome the hypoxic condition . by injection of artificial EPO they can reach higher values i think . anyway , i need to fing a study about that .

you would be right sir........you will get some benefit of the body adjusting, but it's not going to be commensurate with a benefit you will gain using synthetic EPO.......hence Conte said....."SOME"

otherwise why would riders bother with EPO and transfusions when they train at high altitude all the time...........

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[Sin City]

Hahaha man, I swear... some floyd fans....

Good ownage bro!

I wasn't trying to own dude, it just happened.
I love how he completely ignored that one.