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  • antrob
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    #31
    Originally posted by MARKBNLV
    He is a gbp fighter and partner they just keep it low key.
    Exactly. To many mayweather nuthuggers believe him when he says he is his own boss. Golden Boy goes along with this just to stroke mayweather big ego.

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    • infamous larryx
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      #32
      cotto and manny have promotional companies..why are they with top rank??

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      • War Dinamita
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        #33
        Originally posted by Vito Corleone
        Look at VEP. Which is a "real" company. More "real" than Mayweather Promotions. Look at the show they put on at the Hard Rock (I believe) last summer. I think Fernando lost money on that one.

        As a new promoter, you need to get a "name" fighter to headline your show. But a name fighter wants to be G'd up. Therein lies the economic risk.

        Mayweather Promotions operates under the same business model as most of Donald Trump's businesses. You don't really think Trump owns all those buildings, do you?

        MP is a pass-through company. A broker of sorts. He "hires" GBP to do all the executional work. The MP set-up is actually pretty smart. The clothing line is horrific.

        At some point, Floyd will get his license, and it will be seamless and invisible to the common fan. Meanwhile, his name, logo, experience is already in place. Is that smart or ******?


        I do give Floyd credit for this: he isn't cheap with putting on a show. He tried to get Judah on the undercard of the Marquez fight.

        DO YOU REMEMBER WHO WAS ON THE UNDERCARD OF THE BALDOMIR FIGHT? I DO.

        Also, look at who sings the national anthems...stars. Look at his ring walks: 50 Cent, the O'Jays, etc. Dude spends a little money to give the fans a show....before the bell of course :-)
        He knows what he's talking about...

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        • RisAri0
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          #34
          he's using golden boy for boxing purposes and the big paydays.... mayweather promotions is to promote himself using other outlets like movie theaters, media shows, etc. .. its all the cherries on top, the trimmings of self marketing

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          • Deevel916
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            #35
            Originally posted by RisAri0
            he's using golden boy for boxing purposes and the big paydays.... mayweather promotions is to promote himself using other outlets like movie theaters, media shows, etc. .. its all the cherries on top, the trimmings of self marketing
            Thing is, when people hear of a boxing promotional company, they think of an actual promoter with fighters in his stable.

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            • RisAri0
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              #36
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              Thing is, when people hear of a boxing promotional company, they think of an actual promoter with fighters in his stable.
              mayweather promotions isnt really a boxing promotional company tho...just a straight up promo company thats owned by a boxer

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              • arraamis
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                #37
                The most important point missed soo far in some of the very good replies is that a Promoter & HBO\ SHOBOX etc ... FRONTS all the required money for the event and the fighter's purse's. When you hear about Guaranteed purse's, someone had to put that money in escrow and then take a percentage of the profit margin outside of the Guaranteed funds being held.

                MP and GBP are CO-PROMOTING events where GBP\HBO is fronting the purse Guarantee's and the promotional costs. And in return, GBP\HBO gets a percentage of the gate\PPV\Closed Circuit\Theater etc.... They may have an arrangement of sharing promotional costs but it doesn't change much on paper.

                As an example:
                Floyd is guaranteed 22 million + PPV% and Mosley guaranteed 7 million + PPV%. GBP\HBO fronts that money {Purse} and puts it into escrow and collects interest until the even occurs. The Promotional costs and other fees equal 1-2 million {Estimate} which is shared by both GBP\HBO and MP.

                Rough estimates of revenue generated by the event:
                MGMGrand generated revenue $5,000,000
                The event PPV sales makes $83,986,000
                The event Closed circuit sales makes $3,000,000
                The event Theater sales makes $2,999,000
                Sponsor generated income makes $2,000,000

                So, if you look a the numbers GBP\HBO does quite well working with MP, even though it guaranteed soo much money in purse.


                So, with this arrangement MP doesn't lose anything if the event flops - It is GPB\HBO that has put up the funds and stands to lose the most if the event doesn't do well. But since its Floyd ... It always does well enough for GBP\HBO to throw their hats in the ring whenever Floyd fights.


                Some of you guys should spend more time getting an education, than spewing BS and nonsense non-stop. If some of you guys think MP is just a front, then you know absolutely NOTHING about boxing promotion and nothing about boxing.
                Last edited by arraamis; 05-24-2010, 09:28 PM.

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                • immortal tech
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by antrob
                  Exactly. To many mayweather nuthuggers believe him when he says he is his own boss. Golden Boy goes along with this just to stroke mayweather big ego.
                  ok please explain why would they keep it low key? why would big company go along with it and risk it's reputation
                  Last edited by immortal tech; 05-24-2010, 09:30 PM.

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                  • da chosen 1
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by arraamis
                    The most important point missed soo far in some of the very good replies is that a Promoter & HBO\ SHOBOX etc ... FRONTS all the required money for the event and the fighter's purse's. When you hear about Guaranteed purse's, someone had to put that money in escrow and then take a percentage of the profit margin outside of the Guaranteed funds being held.

                    MP and GBP are CO-PROMOTING events where GBP\HBO is fronting the purse Guarantee's and the promotional costs. And in return, GBP\HBO gets a percentage of the gate\PPV\Closed Circuit\Theater etc.... They may have an arrangement of sharing promotional costs but it doesn't change much on paper.

                    As an example:
                    Floyd is guaranteed 22 million + PPV% and Mosley guaranteed 7 million + PPV%. GBP\HBO fronts that money {Purse} and puts it into escrow and collects interest until the even occurs. The Promotional costs and other fees equal 1-2 million {Estimate} which is shared by both GBP\HBO and MP.

                    Rough estimates of revenue generated by the event:
                    MGMGrand generated revenue $5,000,000
                    The event PPV sales makes $83,986,000
                    The event Closed circuit sales makes $3,000,000
                    The event Theater sales makes $2,999,000
                    Sponsor generated income makes $2,000,000

                    So, if you look a the numbers GBP\HBO does quite well working with MP, even though it guaranteed soo much money in purse.


                    So, with this arrangement MP doesn't lose anything if the event flops - It is GPB\HBO that has put up the funds and stands to lose the most if the event doesn't do well. But since its Floyd ... It always does well enough for GBP\HBO to throw their hats in the ring whenever Floyd fights.


                    Some of you guys should spend more time getting an education, than spewing BS and nonsense non-stop. If some of you guys think MP is just a front, then you know absolutely NOTHING about boxing promotion and nothing about boxing.
                    this is worth reading and understanding, im glad u wrote this

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                    • clmags12
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Vito Corleone
                      Guys... y'all have short memories.

                      Do you remember who promoted the Baldomir fight? (I apologize to Pacquiao fans who didn't follow the sport "way back then").

                      Do you remember last year when mayweather flew down to Florida to meet with Don King? Well, that was a leverage play to squeeze a better deal from GBP. Floyd uses GBP as a free-agent promoter because GBP has the existing infrastructure and relationships to set up the fights.

                      And those deals benefit GBP as well (what have been GBP's biggest fights in recent years?). Since Oscar isn't fighting, and there are no more big-budget Hopkins or Barrera fights, what would GBP do with their existing staff and overhead?

                      It is a symbiotic relationship that works well. The events have been all class, and everybody has made a ton of money.
                      Then why did Al Haymon leave his ill mothers bedside and front Floyd some cash? He is not with GBP.
                      http://www.********** . com/pag/article.php?aid=18339

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