Are you a boxing fan or a drug testing fan????

[brick wall]

Why are *******s so ******? Is life either Black or White? Are there any shades of gray with you dummies? Who the **** is the idiot that puts up a poll in which the answer can be both combined (or a number of things?) yet leaves two options? Why not just take this poll to the pinoy lounge?

of course it can be combined but as a fan what topic are you more interested in? boxing in general or peds/blood testing? peds threads are only centered on floyd & pac but what about the other fighters? that's what the ts is trying to imply on this thread. i don't know why you're finding that hard to understand.

[Hannibal Barca]

I'm a fan of integrity.

[The Big Dunn]

But you are stating it as fact that Tony used loaded gloves against Cotto! Sure it's reasonable to be su****ious of Tony but to state it as an outright fact with Zero proof is just outright ridiculous. How can i take that kind of thinking seriously!

You wanna have a legit debate I'm with you but leave out all the hearsay and speculate using actual facts. Thats a legit debate!

I concluded that he cheated based on 2 facts. Naz found the plaster before the Shane fight and in the shane fight his punches were less effective than they were against Cotto. If you disagree thats fine.

[Emphasis]

Why must you pick?

I'm a fan of what's better for Boxing.

[IMDAZED]

of course it can be combined but as a fan what topic are you more interested in? boxing in general or peds/blood testing? peds threads are only centered on floyd & pac but what about the other fighters? that's what the ts is trying to imply on this thread. i don't know why you're finding that hard to understand.

No, that's not what his first thread suggests. I suggest YOU read it again.

[pistol whip]

But if floyd says no test no fight and costs himself $30-40 mil, how can you hate on a man who loses money to stand by his principles?

You call floyd scared if he does this, but if Manny stands by his principles and doesn't take tests because he feels "disrespected" it seems you would applaud him for not being "bullied". I'm sorry but that is a biased double standard IMO.

It seems manny fans want it both ways.

Oh no!!! I never ever have called Floyd a Coward because it is my undying crusade in life to always recognize how much courage it takes to get in a boxing ring period. Every boxer in the world has my utmost respect and not for one second do i think that Floyd is afraid of pac and Vice Versa. i just think that Floyds ego is getting in the way along with Manny's. You see I'm not even on Manny's side here I think he is at fault everybit as much as Floyd.

[hhs661]

I was a baseball fan first, a football fan first, a track & field fan first...Then Rafael Palmeiro, Bill Romanowski, and Marion Jones all got busted. After that I've been a big advocate of drug testing. The same thing goes for boxing. I will always be a boxing fan no matter what, but I don't see any negatives in boxing implementing stricter drug tests to ensure the public, the sport and the future it's reassurance that they're doing everything they can to not be in the same discussion as Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Tim Montgomery, Ben Johnson and other high profile names that got caught cheating.

[pistol whip]

I concluded that he cheated based on 2 facts. Naz found the plaster before the Shane fight and in the shane fight his punches were less effective than they were against Cotto. If you disagree thats fine.

The thing is Tony's punches were never that effective to begin with. He was never this big one punch knock out artist and fighters like Clotty and Williams walked thru his punches. So using past and previous fights in comparison to the Cotto fight just reasserts my opinion that the evidence is inconclusive and therefor I can't accuse tony of doing anything in the Cotto fight. i'm suspecious but is it fact? No!

[The Big Dunn]

Pistol:

And that is usually where reasonable debates get ended. While some posters, brick wall in particular, hate it, it seems that who caused the fight to be cancelled in March is THE topic the majority of boxing fans seem to want to discuss. Not necessarily PED's.

For all of us who love boxing this is a huge issue. for me, I blame Bob Arum becuase I think he fed manny some ****** ****ing talking points just to gain the media advantage but they ended up making manny look bad to the mainstream media, even though reputable (but IMO somewhat bioased) boxing analysts like Merchant, dam rafael and bert sugar were all blaming floyd!

[brick wall]

No, that's not what his first thread suggests. I suggest YOU read it again.

maybe not but the thing is majority of posters in nsb are more interested on peds threads than boxing in general.