If 18 day Cutoff is True for Floyd/Shane, THEN WE ALL KNOW WHO DIDNT WANT THE FIGHT

[Red_Menace]

did you not read the golden boy had an agreement part?


USADA is a business. they get paid to do testing. if they can get a job by amending their procedure on cutoff dates, they will do it.

They are a non-profit organization, so there is little incentive for them to be "bought." They have a procedure, and I'm sure the probably getting audited by the world anti-doping agency, if they want to claim to adhere to their standard.

And just because someone could be bribed, doesn't mean they have been bribed. I'm not a conspiracy theory moron. I'd like to see a little bit of factual evidence before I make assumptions like that.

[S H A R K B O Y]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=387990

Everyone read that thread. Based on the information given from WADA, there's no way for Arum to know when WADA ceased blood testing as the results haven't yet been released to the public.

Link's not working.

[Schmerzen]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=387990

Everyone read that thread. Based on the information given from WADA, there's no way for Arum to know when WADA ceased blood testing as the results haven't yet been released to the public.

your sig just pwns pacquiao

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Link's not working.

it was deleted because it was another bs thread probably.

[DLT]

4 actually.

I knew I read that 8 **** somewhere. Tygart said they were both tested 8 times each. He said 4 times blood only and 4 more times blood & urine

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387387&highlight=tygart

[Hannibal Barca]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387990

It should work now.

[DLT]

that's how i always felt. the fact that you feel that way but they used pac's good name to slander as a way to get out is down right nefarious d. how can you respect something like that?

NO, I disagree. I still think that was legit. I think they do believe he is on something but Im just saying that even without that, I dont think they were really comfortable without another tuneup. I think they truly believe he is juicing, atleast Senior & Roger do. I think its black & white to them. They picked Pac to lose nearly all his recent fights and it had nothing to do with skill or anything. They are just 2 guys who's been around boxing forever and think that you dont move up in weight like this without losing any speed or power & are seemingly gaining some of it while knocking out bigger dudes.

They think he's killing these bigger guys & stopping them when he didnt always even do that against guys at the smaller weights. Im not saying they should feel that way, Im just saying what I know. If you read what they say in every interview and in every pre fight. They say that so & so should kill Pac because you dont move up in weight & stay that dominant phyically.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

i just hope this is true because this means that part of the negotiations can be agreed upon on.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

NO, I disagree. I still think that was legit. I think they do believe he is on something but Im just saying that even without that, I dont think they were really comfortable without another tuneup. I think they truly believe he is juicing, atleast Senior & Roger do. I think its black & white to them. They picked Pac to lose nearly all his recent fights and it had nothing to do with skill or anything. They are just 2 guys who's been around boxing forever and think that you dont move up in weight like this without losing any speed or power & are seemingly gaining some of it while knocking out bigger dudes.

They think he's killing these bigger guys & stopping them when he didnt always even do that against guys at the smaller weights. Im not saying they should feel that way, Im just saying what I know. If you read what they say in every interview and in every pre fight. They say that so & so should kill Pac because you dont move up in weight & stay that dominant phyically.

i respect your opinion d, but cmon my dude. how can you be so short sighted? they picked against him because pac has taken the mantle away from floyd. pac took floyd's awards, status, & limelight.

do you not know the mayweather's sordid criminal past? this **** aint that hard to comprehend. their knowledge of boxing is also ohh soo overrated. there's a reason why roger has never trained another boxer into prominence other than floyd & there's a reason why senior hasnt either.

both are highly overrated especially senior. you know he is when he was training his fighter in an orthodox stance during padwork when his fighter was about to face a southpaw.

[DLT]

i respect your opinion d, but cmon my dude. how can you be so short sighted? they picked against him because pac has taken the mantle away from floyd. pac took floyd's awards, status, & limelight.

do you not know the mayweather's sordid criminal past? this **** aint that hard to comprehend. their knowledge of boxing is also ohh soo overrated. there's a reason why roger has never trained another boxer into prominence other than floyd & there's a reason why senior hasnt either.

both are highly overrated especially senior. you know he is when he was training his fighter in an orthodox stance during padwork when his fighter was about to face a southpaw.

Dont take what I say wrong. Im not saying what I believe. Im saying what they believe. Im not saying its right or it makes sense but thats how they think. I truly dont believe it had anything to do with Floyd's mantle. They just felt that no way should a little man move up & stop a Hatton, let alone a Cotto. They would say it in every interview. Then thats why they started saying stuff like "if he wins this one then I know whats up". You can say its not right but that **** is genuine to them. I honestly dont believe its fake. They would never even really break down the fight.

You ask them about any other fight then they would break it down but in these matches they will just say that there is no way a smaller man can walk through Cotto's punches like that & then have the power to knock him out unless he's on something. Its genuine and they arent the only one's who feel that way. Now that dont make it right or that its not horse**** but there belief in it is true. It didnt have nothing to do with Pac taking Floyd's throne. ****, I think thats the one part they did like because now its a big money mega fight.

Now there is another side to it. I truly also believe that Senior is worried about Floyd fighting the Southpaws. Thats real and its not just Pac. If it was up to him, he would probably keep Floyd away from Pac, Sergio, or Paul but the problem is they are the 3 biggest fights for Floyd. He's kinda like me in that regard in that he's a little paranoid about it. I think he truly feels his son is a class better than all 3 but could get caught with some Southpaw BS and struggle just because of that. Thats why I like the way he's helped Floyd in these last 2 fights but I dont want Roger to go to jail now of all times because I think Senior will be so paranoid that he may come up with a ****ty game plan for the Pac fight because he's scared of the Southpaw stuff so he will have Floyd running & being cautious. The good thing is that I think Junior will still have a mind of his own & fight his own fight in the ring but that does worry me