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  • Walt Liquor
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    #101
    Originally posted by Curtiz
    this

    Phase 1 is over

    Phase 2 has begun

    Dont use Phase 1 conditions when you are now in Phase 2.

    Invalid son.
    that's not how negotiations work....phase 1 carries over in the public's opinion and that is a fact. in order for phase 2 to really take effect, there needs to be a substantial shift on one of the parties' situation (like one of them lost a fight or something).

    the variables are still the same. 1) both have huge $ leverage
    2) boxing still does not require OST. 3) both are still consideredt to be the best boxer on the planet 4) public is still demanding the fight

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    • Amazinger
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      #102
      Originally posted by Eaner0919
      do not agree

      because at that time Mayweather's testing was still based on speculation and theory rather than having a hard cold history behind it.

      so we cannot just simply say regardless of what happened when what happened is a big deal (Mayweather and Shane going through OST)

      simple as this

      Mayweather: 14 days is fine

      Manny: not its not

      fight falls through

      Manny: okay 14 days is fine let's make this happen Floyd
      Mayweather: offer is off the table I already went through OST so now OST is in all my fights now

      like reed said 7 days is the middle point of this so if they get to that point then I guess its okay even though it should really be true random testing

      Just because he went through it it's no longer valid?.What made it invalid?.
      The 14 days is actually the middle point........And That is never on the table.
      If the fight do not happen then everyone will say it's Floyd's fault.Like in the first negotiation.

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      • fightfan_79
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        #103
        Originally posted by American Dream
        its funny how the ****ty Pac fans were making every excuse in the book for Pac when he REJECTED this 14 day compromise that Floyd made..now they act like Pac is doing some sort of miracle for agreeing to something Floyd already said was off the table during the Mosley/May promotions..cant have it both ways..
        Pac trying to save face knowing Floyd already said full OST..he dont want this fight..
        Green K!!!!!!!!!!

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #104
          Originally posted by Geze
          Just because he went through it it's no longer valid?.What made it invalid?.
          The 14 days is actually the middle point........And That is never on the table.
          If the fight do not happen then everyone will say it's Floyd's fault.Like in the first negotiation.
          Mayweather hasn't said anything. But listen, because Mayweather actually went through with it and saw how much of a non-issue it was, yes he has a right to say those 14 days are off.

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          • Carpe Diem
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            #105
            Even though the poll is bias, but i want the fight to happen...If we can agree that if Floyd doesn't compromise to the 14 days offer, then we should all agree that it wasn't Floyd who backed out of the first time..

            What do you think, Mak?

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #106
              Originally posted by Eaner0919
              do not agree

              because at that time Mayweather's testing was still based on speculation and theory rather than having a hard cold history behind it.

              so we cannot just simply say regardless of what happened when what happened is a big deal (Mayweather and Shane going through OST)

              simple as this

              Mayweather: 14 days is fine

              Manny: not its not

              fight falls through

              Manny: okay 14 days is fine let's make this happen Floyd
              Mayweather: offer is off the table I already went through OST so now OST is in all my fights now

              like reed said 7 days is the middle point of this so if they get to that point then I guess its okay even though it should really be true random testing

              no good unless it was something adopted by boxing as a whole.

              floyd left the door open with the 14 days and regardless of what your personal opinion is, manny made the last concession. floyd's move.

              offerring 7 like reed said is beginning to appear scared and petty. what if manny says 10? then floyd says 8, then manny says 9 and so forth.

              why do you think bob is putting this out in the press? because it looks like manny has now met floyd's offer that was on the table with no real reason for him to retract it (if boxing was on board at all, he would have some leverage)

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              • fightfan_79
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                #107
                Originally posted by Makavelli
                aren't you a Spurs fan?
                Spurs fan????? C'mon Mak....from the Bay....representin the Dubz till I die....or they move....either way....your "triplets" are making daddy proud aren't they?

                I was so hoping for a Suns / Magic finals.....it can still happen....just sayin.

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                • Alibata
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Eaner0919
                  do not agree

                  because at that time Mayweather's testing was still based on speculation and theory rather than having a hard cold history behind it.

                  so we cannot just simply say regardless of what happened when what happened is a big deal (Mayweather and Shane going through OST)

                  simple as this

                  Mayweather: 14 days is fine

                  Manny: not its not

                  fight falls through

                  Manny: okay 14 days is fine let's make this happen Floyd
                  Mayweather: offer is off the table I already went through OST so now OST is in all my fights now

                  like reed said 7 days is the middle point of this so if they get to that point then I guess its okay even though it should really be true random testing
                  So in using earlier excuses against Manny. Floyd is willing to walk out on $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ because he is a principled individual. 14 days is good, he was ok with it. Is it really principle.. We are talking about Floyd here.

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                  • Eaner0919
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by johnm
                    I voted.. But the poll is biased.

                    It is funny though, that Pacquaio is allowed to walk away from a deal, and we're supposed to be fine with it. But if Mayweather says no.. He's "ducking".
                    here is another I have yet to see brought up that to me is interesting

                    a lot of Manny fans on here brought up the principle of the negotiations stating Manny is a proud man and a star in his own right why should he cater to Floyd's demands of 14 days we should just allow the commissions to do their job.

                    remember that?

                    so now do his principles change because now, what a lot of them so vehemently debated against yesterday, is now there rallying cry today?

                    I have seen people on here today say anything Floyd says we agree but yet I think quite a few people like myself and Dominicano Soy have always really been behind total random testing.

                    yet when it comes to Manny every day cutoff being given by their side is what they in turn follow? first it was three tests (remember that one?) then 30 days...oh wait Golden Boy has video of 24 days?...okay 24 days....wait Floyd said 14 days now? **** that.....what we took blood 19 days out for Clottey?...****...okay 14 days then and thats what WE support!!!!

                    lol

                    and whats to say Floyd's principles shouldn't be respect here as well? why should he have to give in to his own principles now that Manny has wavered off of 14 days not being acceptable?

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                      Mayweather hasn't said anything. But listen, because Mayweather actually went through with it and saw how much of a non-issue it was, yes he has a right to say those 14 days are off.
                      bingo

                      he now has every right to say he wants OST in total and be fine with it.

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