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  • trainhard_187
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    #21
    The drug Floyd uses to dope up his hands is illegal in Texas.. Why else did Richard Shaefer, Golden Girl Promoter not make the plan ride to Dallas when Pac and Floyd were in negotiations.

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    • War Dinamita
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      #22
      Originally posted by carts
      im saying his future fights STFU!
      he wont fight where this shiet is illegal
      Now you change your story after you look like a fool? Floyd has fought in other states were the pain killer is illegal.

      Why would Floyd want to fight in the UK, Dubai, and other countries if he's afraid of fighting outside of Vegas?

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      • War Dinamita
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        #23
        Originally posted by trainhard_187
        The drug Floyd uses to dope up his hands is illegal in Texas.. Why else did Richard Shaefer, Golden Girl Promoter not make the plan ride to Dallas when Pac and Floyd were in negotiations.
        Why would they fight in Dallas when they can make millions more in Vegas? Vegas makes a lot of money when Floyd fights in Vegas.

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        • BoxingTech718
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          #24
          I hate to do this to you guys but
          Xylocaine
          Xylocaine
          public domain

          What is the official word on Xylocaine? Is it illegal in the United States? Is it banned by boxing or any of the State Athletic Commissions? Why does Floyd Mayweather take it? After contacting the appropriate authoritative en******, I have the answers to these questions and more.


          US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

          Lenny Brown Sacramento, CA “Is Xylocaine approved by the FDA?”

          I spoke today with a representative from the FDA via their Drug Information line. I asked them if Xylocaine was illegal or banned in this country. The representative said there are no bans on this drug. The representative also said that there would be no reason for individual states to make this drug illegal especially if its FDA approved. However, if this drug is administered by an I.V. or through injections then it must be done under the direct supervision of a licensed medical professional.

          FDA.gov

          World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

          One of the world’s leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, “None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List”. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

          WADA



          US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

          Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA “Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?”

          The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

          USADA.org


          Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

          In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

          “We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

          NSAC


          Conclusion

          As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

          Xylocaine, in most methods of usage, needs to be supervised by a licensed medical professional due to potential serious side effects like an abnormal heartbeat. In addition to potential side effects, there are also some long-term effects like dementia that could be experienced.

          Regardless of the side effects and the legal use of this drug, it still remains debated whether this drug gives Floyd an advantage or not. It’s clear that there would be an advantage on fight day if he couldn’t experience any pain in his brittle hands but is this drug a real advantage during training?

          According to BlueCross/Blue Shield – “Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are prescription medications, like anabolic steroids and stimulants, as well as sports supplements and growth hormones that some athletes take to improve their energy, stamina and power while training or competing.”

          According to The Mayo Clinic – “Performance-enhancing drugs and supplements are used to boost athletic performance, ward off fatigue and enhance physical appearance. They're also taken to increase muscle mass and strength.”


          Xylocaine might be legal but it remains highly controversial. Does the legal allowance of this drug override the performance enhancements that this drug provides?


          Although, I think this drug is controversial and a PED, the very fact that it's still legal, according to those who I spoke with, makes me wrong for previously thinking it was illegal. I was misinformed, like a lot of people, when we were told that this drug was illegal. I was wrong, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If I'm going to hold others accountable then I have to hold myself accountable too. However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities.

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          • Gonzalez_Boxing
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            #25
            Originally posted by California Love
            They test every fighter for this after the fight.
            Do you have a source?

            Edit: Got it from BoxingTech718
            Last edited by Gonzalez_Boxing; 05-19-2010, 09:14 PM.

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            • trainhard_187
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              #26
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              Does proof of his PED use even matter?

              Floyd wants him to take the test. If Pacquiao doesn't want to, he doesn't have to. But if he wants to fight Floyd, he will have to agree to it.

              What is so hard to understand about that?
              So what your saying that all fighters, matter of fact ALL ATHLETES who have not taken the Olympic Style Drug test are automatically suspect of using PED's.. With no proven fact that they have failed or testified they have used it.. Thats your only real proof, is that they did not take the test..

              Thats like accusing OJ for killing his wife cause he didnt take the lie detector test even though all the evidence shows he is clean.. Hes guilty just cause he didnt take the test.. STILL JUST A SPECULATION..

              I started this thread to prove that Floyd dopes his hands and to prove he aint trying to clean up the sport..

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              • War Dinamita
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                #27
                Originally posted by Dan-O-Mac
                Do you have a source?
                They test for this drug after every fight in a state where the drug is illegal.

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                • .Sakuragi.
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                  #28
                  This is also how ironic Floyd is, another one is when he purposely taked the advantage being over the weight against JMM, yet he wants a "level playing field" lol.

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BoxingTech718
                    I hate to do this to you guys but
                    Xylocaine
                    Xylocaine
                    public domain

                    What is the official word on Xylocaine? Is it illegal in the United States? Is it banned by boxing or any of the State Athletic Commissions? Why does Floyd Mayweather take it? After contacting the appropriate authoritative en******, I have the answers to these questions and more.


                    US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

                    Lenny Brown Sacramento, CA “Is Xylocaine approved by the FDA?”

                    I spoke today with a representative from the FDA via their Drug Information line. I asked them if Xylocaine was illegal or banned in this country. The representative said there are no bans on this drug. The representative also said that there would be no reason for individual states to make this drug illegal especially if its FDA approved. However, if this drug is administered by an I.V. or through injections then it must be done under the direct supervision of a licensed medical professional.

                    FDA.gov

                    World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA)

                    One of the world’s leading authorities on anti-doping, WADA is the primary source for which drugs are banned in sports or athletic competitions worldwide. According to WADA, via GlobalDRO.com, “None of the ingredients in this brand (Xylocaine) are currently included on the WADA Prohibited List”. This means that Xylocaine is not banned by WADA.

                    WADA



                    US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA)

                    Mandy Craig Sacramento, CA “Does the USADA ban Xylocaine?”

                    The USADA has a Drug Reference line where you can contact them via telephone and specifically ask them about any drug. When I called them yesterday, I spoke directly with their telephone doctor of the day. First, I must say that it was very informative being able to talk to a USADA doctor about this drug and the potential side effects. Anyhow, the doctor said that Xylocaine is legal for boxers to take via injection into the hands. He also said that individual state athletic commissions might have additional stipulations.

                    USADA.org


                    Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC)

                    In a conversation that I had with Keith Kizer, about the use of Xylocaine in the state of Nevada, Keith said that because “It is not a prohibited substance under WADA or USADA”; it’s not banned by the State Athletic Commission. However, Keith Kizer noted that the commission has added some stipulations to the use of Xylocaine.

                    “We don’t want fighters to use it on fight day. We make sure they have full physicals to check for this. They will be told to stop doing this from the weigh-in through the fight. Fighters must only take Tylenol or ice for any pain.”

                    NSAC


                    Conclusion

                    As of February 17th 2010, Xylocaine is not banned according to the FDA, USADA, WADA, and the NSAC. In fact, I can’t find any other State Athletic Commission that bans it either. So, Floyd Mayweather’s use of this drug for his hands is not illegal. And, as long as he doesn’t use it from the weigh-in through fight day, then he won’t get into any trouble. However, this doesn’t mean that this drug is still safe or something that the general public should just go out and acquire.

                    Xylocaine, in most methods of usage, needs to be supervised by a licensed medical professional due to potential serious side effects like an abnormal heartbeat. In addition to potential side effects, there are also some long-term effects like dementia that could be experienced.

                    Regardless of the side effects and the legal use of this drug, it still remains debated whether this drug gives Floyd an advantage or not. It’s clear that there would be an advantage on fight day if he couldn’t experience any pain in his brittle hands but is this drug a real advantage during training?

                    According to BlueCross/Blue Shield – “Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are prescription medications, like anabolic steroids and stimulants, as well as sports supplements and growth hormones that some athletes take to improve their energy, stamina and power while training or competing.”

                    According to The Mayo Clinic – “Performance-enhancing drugs and supplements are used to boost athletic performance, ward off fatigue and enhance physical appearance. They're also taken to increase muscle mass and strength.”


                    Xylocaine might be legal but it remains highly controversial. Does the legal allowance of this drug override the performance enhancements that this drug provides?


                    Although, I think this drug is controversial and a PED, the very fact that it's still legal, according to those who I spoke with, makes me wrong for previously thinking it was illegal. I was misinformed, like a lot of people, when we were told that this drug was illegal. I was wrong, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If I'm going to hold others accountable then I have to hold myself accountable too. However, If anyone has any other evidence that this drug is banned in "49" states, then please contact me so I can verify it and check with the proper authorities.

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                    • Rick Grimes
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                      #30
                      If it's legal, it's not cheating.

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