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  • M.I.C.
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    Paul Williams Needs a New Trainer

    Okay why after all these years does Paul Williams still not have a good jab? why does he still give up his height? Why does he still lunge forward with his punches? Why does he still have serious defensive liabilities? Why does he still have no power on his so called power punches?

    I know I've criticized Paul Williams in a thread or two but considering how many times we go over the same sh-t with Floyd and Pac...uh you get the point.

    Paul imo is basically heart and determination but that wont get him as far as he thinks it will. In his last 2 fights vs Martinez and Cintron, quite frankly he ******. He may have won but from what we've seen there really is nothing to fear from this guy, he doesn't match his "most feared" moniker.

    So to this I've decided not to blame PW but his trainer, this is a guy he's been with since he was a kid and its time to move on. I think PW could benefit from a trainer like Emmanuel Steward, Manny is good working with tall, rangy, long fighters. Perhaps he can teach Paul to not give up his natural advantages. Maybe he can develop his jab and his straight left. Do for him how he did for the Klits and Hearns.

    So based on his lack of skills I disagree with any "expert" who has PW as P4P #3, he may be in the top 10 but he has a long way to go in the skill department before I rank him that high.
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    #2
    Originally posted by M.I.C.
    Okay why after all these years does Paul Williams still not have a good jab? why does he still give up his height? Why does he still lunge forward with his punches? Why does he still have serious defensive liabilities? Why does he still have no power on his so called power punches?

    I know I've criticized Paul Williams in a thread or two but considering how many times we go over the same sh-t with Floyd and Pac...uh you get the point.

    Paul imo is basically heart and determination but that wont get him as far as he thinks it will. In his last 2 fights vs Martinez and Cintron, quite frankly he ******. He may have won but from what we've seen there really is nothing to fear from this guy, he doesn't match his "most feared" moniker.

    So to this I've decided not to blame PW but his trainer, this is a guy he's been with since he was a kid and its time to move on. I think PW could benefit from a trainer like Emmanuel Steward, Manny is good working with tall, rangy, long fighters. Perhaps he can teach Paul to not give up his natural advantages. Maybe he can develop his jab and his straight left. Do for him how he did for the Klits and Hearns.

    So based on his lack of skills I disagree with any "expert" who has PW as P4P #3, he may be in the top 10 but he has a long way to go in the skill department before I rank him that high.
    Hes 39-1. If it aint broke............

    Paul doesnt have a jab?

    He doesnt have power?

    They call him the punisher for a reason. He just comes to fight.

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      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Hes 39-1. If it aint broke............

      Paul doesnt have a jab?

      He doesnt have power?

      They call him the punisher for a reason. He just comes to fight.
      Anyone can be 39-1 when fighting soft competition for 35 of those fights. Against his best opponents, Margarito, Martinez, Cintron, did he really perform well at all? Was that P4P stuff you witnessed there? You can make an argument that all 3 of those fights were a draw. And despite the rematch I wont even mention being outboxed by Quintana.

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        Originally posted by M.I.C.
        Anyone can be 39-1 when fighting soft competition for 35 of those fights. Against his best opponents, Margarito, Martinez, Cintron, did he really perform well at all? Was that P4P stuff you witnessed there? You can make an argument that all 3 of those fights were a draw. And despite the rematch I wont even mention being outboxed by Quintana.
        Um no you cant.

        Margarito a draw? Really man. You cant crap on his opposition when so many guys have wanted nothing to do with him. Including Mayweather.

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          The guy is a winner. Plain and simple. He lost to Quinatana came back and took care of business in one round.

          Who do you think Paul should have fought in the past? Give me some names.

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          • Walterson
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            Would Roach be a good trainer for Paul?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Walterson
              Would Roach be a good trainer for Paul?
              No not really. Hes too busy.

              The best trainer for him would be Steward. But honestly Paul is what he is. Hes not getting rid of Peterson so its a moot point.

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              • FLY TY
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                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                The guy is a winner. Plain and simple. He lost to Quinatana came back and took care of business in one round.

                Who do you think Paul should have fought in the past? Give me some names.
                he definitely should've given martinez a rematch...martinez-pavlik should not have happened.


                other than that, i agree, can't say williams has "ducked" anybody, but that doesn't make him a great fighter either.

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                  Originally posted by FLY TY
                  he definitely should've given martinez a rematch...martinez-pavlik should not have happened.


                  other than that, i agree, can't say williams has "ducked" anybody, but that doesn't make him a great fighter either.
                  He offered Martinez the rematch and he offered Martinez more cash then he made vs. Pavlik.

                  Williams ducks no one.

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                  • FLY TY
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    He offered Martinez the rematch and he offered Martinez more cash then he made vs. Pavlik.

                    Williams ducks no one.
                    hopefully they can get it done now. i don't think either guy has any fights lined up. i'm loving a rematch.

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