Is There Any Proof That Pacquiao Has Been Taking Anything Illegal?

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    #51
    Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
    Actually, it hasn't been answered. Pac refuses to provide the evidence that'd prove his legitimacy.

    And we can kill the "it's only the *****s who think he's guilty" nonsense.
    OST would prove that he's clean for 2 months, what about the other 10 months of a year?

    Maybe Floyd had a 2 year PED break when he "retired"........

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    • shade darkar
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      #52
      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
      Actually, it hasn't been answered. Pac refuses to provide the evidence that'd prove his legitimacy.

      And we can kill the "it's only the *****s who think he's guilty" nonsense.
      at the end of the day, i think most floyd fans think pac has got to be on something because he stepped up in weight and beat hatton and cotto easily. but a more logical reason if you actually think about it would be that he is fighting at his walk around weight, hence not having to drain himself to make lesser weights. it is as simple as that.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Hottamale
        Jesus.

        Ok, I say that the OST doesn't detect every PED out there. SARMs for example. Do you agree, or disagree?
        I don't know. Hence the reason you should do your own research.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Erik18
          OST would prove that he's clean for 2 months, what about the other 10 months of a year?

          Maybe Floyd had a 2 year PED break when he "retired"........
          I don't know about the other 10 months of the year. I can't tell you what he does or doesn't do during that time. All I can tell you is that when it mattered, he proved his validity.

          Perhaps, though I'm unsure of the benefits PED's could provide a non active fighter.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
            You and one other poster have touched upon something important. Nevermind Pacquiao. The whole of boxing should embrace this new, strict form of testing. Don't view it as pandering to one fighter's demands, view it as protecting the sport and its participants.

            The fans are starting to want this, and we have the right to stipulate it as we support the boxers we love. The boxers are, though barely, starting to come around to the idea as well. They deserve it because they putting themselves in harm's way to entertain us and to achieve personal and national glory. The olympics games are often not dangerous at all, but boxing is. Shouldn't boxing have the highest standards...hell, shouldn't boxing be pushing for the highest standards in testing?
            And Pac is all for it as long as its mandated by the NSAC or whichever commision in whichever state he fights at.

            Look, catchweights, ring size, and glove type have always been a point for negotiations for decades in boxing. Asking someone to have blood drawn over and over again while training for the biggest fight of his life is a bit overboard in my opinion.

            Now if Pac were flat out refusing to take any tests, then he should be barred from boxing period. Fact is, he takes all mandated tests before and after each fight, and was even willing to take OSDT when he could have flat out refused and told Floyd to go *** himself. Lets also not forget that Pac was willing to take any type of blood test IMMEDIATELY after the fight.

            In my honest unbiased opinion, Floyd is using this to get into Pac's head and win the psychological battle before they even get into the ring.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
              Actually, it hasn't been answered. Pac refuses to provide the evidence that'd prove his legitimacy.

              And we can kill the "it's only the *****s who think he's guilty" nonsense.
              Ridiculous argument. The burden of proof always lies with the accuser. Doesn't matter whether it's the court of public opinion or the court of law.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
                I don't know. Hence the reason you should do your own research.
                Which means you don't know if OST can be used as proof, right?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Hottamale
                  Which means you don't know if OST can be used as proof, right?
                  And of course, we have a strawman argument. Congratulations.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Erik18
                    OST would prove that he's clean for 2 months, what about the other 10 months of a year?

                    Maybe Floyd had a 2 year PED break when he "retired"........
                    Travis Tygart
                    (12:05) "They are In our Out of Competition testing pool"
                    http://nhbnews.podomatic.com/player/...19_12_13-07_00

                    (They referring to Mosley and Mayweather)
                    Last edited by Shabba Rank$; 05-18-2010, 09:06 AM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
                      And of course, we have a strawman argument. Congratulations.
                      You discredit urine tests because it doesn't detect everything, but blood tests is proof of someone being clean even though it doesn't detect everything either?

                      Hypocrite much?

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