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  • Originally posted by bunnybounce View Post
    For christ sake, another *****. Pac fought at 135 for the first time against DAvid Diaz, then he fought ODL at 147, 12 POUNDS HIGHER. So do expect Pac to fought ODLH at 154? Are you out of your mind? Pac is still not proven that time if he is effective at higher weight. Knock it off son!
    the point he was making is, pac and crew are comfotable asking other fighters to fight at a catch wt to pacs advantage. whats wrong with jmm asking pac to fight at 140? pac holds a title at 140, so he can still fight at 140. and we know he wants no part of alexander or bradley. so why not give the fans another good fight. fans love trilogies.

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    • Originally posted by P4P305 View Post
      If Marquez was as strong and fast as Pacquiao is, he would probably be the only legit challenger to beat Floyd Mayweather..He has the skills, ring generalship, and he's very versatile as well..
      not true, Mayweather is just a smarter fighter than Marquez.....when a guy lands 12% of his punches and he throws 100 more than Mayweather..that lets me know speed and power have nothing to do with it. At no weight could Marquez beat Mayweather IMO, he might make it more competitive but will still get shut out

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      • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
        the point he was making is, pac and crew are comfotable asking other fighters to fight at a catch wt to pacs advantage. whats wrong with jmm asking pac to fight at 140? pac holds a title at 140, so he can still fight at 140. and we know he wants no part of alexander or bradley. so why not give the fans another good fight. fans love trilogies.
        Pac cant fight Marquez cause Golden Boy will still ask for Random test

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        • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
          Another way to look at it, he got knocked down 4 times, got up and gave him hell. Pac is like I just knocked him down and he is still comming for me.

          See how that works.
          good point. it had to be difficult to knock a man all those times and he gets back up and fights like his life was in doubt. jmm won many fans with that performance. i thought he was done. i do think pac won the first fight. i think jmm won the second fight. so, why not have a tie breaker.

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          • Originally posted by Easy Work Jr. View Post
            not true, Mayweather is just a smarter fighter than Marquez.....when a guy lands 12% of his punches and he throws 100 more than Mayweather..that lets me know speed and power have nothing to do with it. At no weight could Marquez beat Mayweather IMO, he might make it more competitive but will still get shut out
            true. pac fans made a big deal about the 2lbs over the catch wt. but wt had nothing to do with floyds victory. floyd is just a phenom. he shuts down the oppositions best weapon. then beats them into submission. most of the people that fought floyd, become fans of his ability. theres a reason he lives at the top of the fighters poll for so long.

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            • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
              true. pac fans made a big deal about the 2lbs over the catch wt. but wt had nothing to do with floyds victory. floyd is just a phenom. he shuts down the oppositions best weapon. then beats them into submission. most of the people that fought floyd, become fans of his ability. theres a reason he lives at the top of the fighters poll for so long.
              i'd rather want a boxer who follows the contracted weight than a boxer who did not even followed the contracted weight... that's the difference between weight draining, as you call it, of pacquiao against his foes and the 2lbs over the catchweight of someone very much in the WW against a LW

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              • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
                its funny to me, all the pac fans are talking about how jmm is asking too much for pac to come down to 142. but they had no problem asking oscar to come down to a wt he hasnt fought at in seven years. they say manny dont fight for money, and yet they say jmm should take a 90/10 split. pure nonsense. why not a 50/50 split? most thought jmm won the last fight anyway. to ask for 90% of the purse says you care a lot about money! and dont give me that its arum bs. manny likes to gamble(nothing wrong with that) but a man that loves to gamble cares a lot about money!
                i think pac could do 142 easily, but the oscar excuse doesnt mean anything... oscar wanted to fight pac.... pac was coming up, do you honestly think he couldve jumped up to 154???? before oscar, pac fought at 135... so if oscar wanted him he needed to come down. it was his fault for draining himself too early and maintaining the drained weight.... oscar didnt even rehydrate up, that shows how idiotic his nutrition plan was.... BUT apparently its ALL pac's fault that oscar failed right??? thats why you guys always discredit the win.... you guys kill me....

                what was the purse split for floyd/jmm??? i doubt it was 50/50... so why the hell would pac do 50/50??? but totally, i agree... money is a BIG factor obviously for pac... he already built up a GREAT resume after his fights with marquez. pac would be doing jmm a favor by giving him another payday...
                jmm is great champion, but i think he should continue to test/expose prospects... he cant hang with elites anymore... at least not above LW.

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                • Originally posted by 12345678 View Post
                  He should fight khan and aniliate him this may make roach Manny accept the fight and give him a rematch
                  i think that would be a good fight. khan showed he has the skill to hang with a boxer. he dominated paulie. at this point i would give the edge to jmm due to his experiance and ring smarts. but i wouldnt count khan out. i think it would be a high drama fight.

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                  • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                    i think pac could do 142 easily, but the oscar excuse doesnt mean anything... oscar wanted to fight pac.... pac was coming up, do you honestly think he couldve jumped up to 154???? before oscar, pac fought at 135... so if oscar wanted him he needed to come down. it was his fault for draining himself too early and maintaining the drained weight.... oscar didnt even rehydrate up, that shows how idiotic his nutrition plan was.... BUT apparently its ALL pac's fault that oscar failed right??? thats why you guys always discredit the win.... you guys kill me....

                    what was the purse split for floyd/jmm??? i doubt it was 50/50... so why the hell would pac do 50/50??? but totally, i agree... money is a BIG factor obviously for pac... he already built up a GREAT resume after his fights with marquez. pac would be doing jmm a favor by giving him another payday...
                    jmm is great champion, but i think he should continue to test/expose prospects... he cant hang with elites anymore... at least not above LW.
                    yeah true!!!!!!

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                    • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                      i think pac could do 142 easily, but the oscar excuse doesnt mean anything... oscar wanted to fight pac.... pac was coming up, do you honestly think he couldve jumped up to 154???? before oscar, pac fought at 135... so if oscar wanted him he needed to come down. it was his fault for draining himself too early and maintaining the drained weight.... oscar didnt even rehydrate up, that shows how idiotic his nutrition plan was.... BUT apparently its ALL pac's fault that oscar failed right??? thats why you guys always discredit the win.... you guys kill me....

                      what was the purse split for floyd/jmm??? i doubt it was 50/50... so why the hell would pac do 50/50??? but totally, i agree... money is a BIG factor obviously for pac... he already built up a GREAT resume after his fights with marquez. pac would be doing jmm a favor by giving him another payday...
                      jmm is great champion, but i think he should continue to test/expose prospects... he cant hang with elites anymore... at least not above LW.
                      whats up wax, i take nothing away from pacs win over oscar. in truth i thought dlh would beat pac even at 147. so i take nothing away from pacs victory. to doubt dlhs not re-hydrating, it was in the contract dlh could not weight more than 147 on fight night. you have to give roach props for getting his fighter every advantage he can. to state it plainly oscar got beat up. but to jmm vs pac, the whole point of bringing up oscar is, the pac fans are saying pac vs jmm at 147. thats crazy. fight at 140. while i dont think a 50/50 is going to fly, to say some lunatic figure of 90/10 is just ******. and since there is such controversy about who actually won the battle lets do it again. pac fans always bring up JLC vs PBF and say JLC won the 1st fight. ok thats an opinion. but PBF won the second fight in a dominate way and put the matter to rest. pac should do the same thing. fight jmm one more time and put to rest who is the better of the two.

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