The real reason why Pac doesn't want Blood testing close to a fight

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  • Flows
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    #11
    You Sir, Typed a wall of crap i didn't read!

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    • Calilloyd
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      #12
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      Brah.. Don't be a fan boy.. Your **** riding won't make you pretty..
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      Read the facts stop hating.. It's about the intrusiveness of testing that is the topic of this thread.

      Your so in love with your boy toy Floydicain your head is messed up? Get a clearer head next time it's messing you up brah!

      Learn to analyze it will make you look intelligent next time. Ayt??

      But, damn I must be hitting a nerve somewhere brah! but you can still **** ride floyd some more you might get a chance to see him someday lol
      You should direct that at yourself for making this thread. Pacquaio is a grown man. A professional fighter. Yet you made a thread coddling him as if he's a child. And the number of excuses you used in a long post demonstrates that you should practice what you preach.

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      • V.WEBB
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        #13
        Originally posted by Spoon23
        Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered blood testing right after the fight in the locker room.

        He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1 were the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales.

        Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves, and factor in the bloody cut from a head butt made him lose the fight. But We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze.

        Knowing that he had a bad history of blood testing. He doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind. He believes he is weakened by drawing blood.

        It is enough for a fighters mental frame of mind to be messed up and leave a fighter unsure of himself coming into a big fight.

        Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? They should go in there @ a 100%.

        If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want? Having a fighter @ 80% will rob us with a great fight. Leaving us with question marks who really won.

        Have you even taken blood before? Some military men even squirm just getting blood. Some even act like little kids.

        If you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the tablespoon that they where talking about.

        Have you boxing fans ever gotten any blood before? Getting blood can pop a vain and leave your arms stiff for a day or 2. What about if it happens to pac who trains like crazy for a fight?

        You all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. It's like a soldier going into a practice or a war they need their gun in tip top shape to 'practice perfectly or go to a battlefield knowing their gear is in good shape.

        It's like in any pro sport they need the best gear the best car, as tiger needs his best golf set to train as A formula 1 driver needs the best car.

        Now, How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened? Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.

        Having to take 8 blood test in an intense training camp will defintely hamper Pac's training, if the injection will be swollen, he will practicing with a swollen arm for 1-2 days per blood test multipy that to 8 times at as to what happened to mosely.. The result is catastrophic.

        A walking zombie is what happened to mosely, a spent fighter who gassed out to early in the fight. Mouth opened as early as the 5th round.

        Have you tried a blood test before? You should know it has a stinging pain in your right after a blood test and it last for a day or 2 so how can you train?

        Do you see tiger woods carrying a lousy golf set? Do you see a tennis player like the venus sisters carrying a lousy racket for training? Pros need their gears, for boxers it's there arms. They should always have it in tiptop shape to perform there very best.

        So, drawing blood means a swollen arm.. Ain't that not performing or practicing at the highest level? they lose 1-2 days of quality training for everytime the are tested. Don't you think a Hair sample is better for testing coz it's none evasive and can last longer than blood and urine?

        Knowing Pac is smaller than floyd and has a light welterweight frame and as Emanuel Steward pointed out after the Mayweather Mosely fight, He mentioned that in his eyes pacman's body frame is only a small light welterweight. And goes to say Floyd has all the advantages, Height, reach and strength.

        So Who loses more in training and in the actual fight?

        If you want fair and quality training I believe a non evasive way of testing P.E.D's should be proposed. Like hair. It last longer shelf life. Even last for years they say. So if they cheat there hair will prove it after the fight. And you can always go back and check even long after the fight when new advanced checking are adapted.

        It's all about fair game. Its a brutal deadly sport both should be @ the best when they fight @ the highest level. There must be a way to have a non evasive test.
        Manny got his blood taken 19 days before he fought Clottey..the VERY next day he was whooping his sparring partners. So cut this babying out, we (logically GROWN UPS) aren't going for it.

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        • 77Ritchie77
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          #14
          drug users should tell probation officers they are scared of drug tests because it affects their mental frame of mind before they go to work.

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          • T-97
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            #15
            Originally posted by Spoon23
            Now, How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened? Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.
            I'm beyond arguing about this stuff, as I think both guys are being silly on it. Pac for making such a fuss about it, and Floyd for bringing it up. My only reply, is, why have you only mentioned that Pac could get a stiff muscle and hence not be able to train? Mayweather is taking the same risk too.

            The only disadvantage with the blood testing for Pac is the mental aspect from the Morales fight - any of this 'not being able to train for x, y and z reason' all apply to the other fighter taking the test too.

            Anyway, let's just hope the fight gets done one way or another...

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            • HyperUppercut
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              #16
              Originally posted by Spoon23
              Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered blood testing right after the fight in the locker room.

              He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1 were the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales.

              Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves, and factor in the bloody cut from a head butt made him lose the fight. But We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze.

              Knowing that he had a bad history of blood testing. He doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind. He believes he is weakened by drawing blood.

              It is enough for a fighters mental frame of mind to be messed up and leave a fighter unsure of himself coming into a big fight.

              Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? They should go in there @ a 100%.

              If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want? Having a fighter @ 80% will rob us with a great fight. Leaving us with question marks who really won.

              Have you even taken blood before? Some military men even squirm just getting blood. Some even act like little kids.

              If you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the tablespoon that they where talking about.

              Have you boxing fans ever gotten any blood before? Getting blood can pop a vain and leave your arms stiff for a day or 2. What about if it happens to pac who trains like crazy for a fight?

              You all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. It's like a soldier going into a practice or a war they need their gun in tip top shape to 'practice perfectly or go to a battlefield knowing their gear is in good shape.

              It's like in any pro sport they need the best gear the best car, as tiger needs his best golf set to train as A formula 1 driver needs the best car.

              Now, How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened? Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.

              Having to take 8 blood test in an intense training camp will defintely hamper Pac's training, if the injection will be swollen, he will practicing with a swollen arm for 1-2 days per blood test multipy that to 8 times at as to what happened to mosely.. The result is catastrophic.

              A walking zombie is what happened to mosely, a spent fighter who gassed out to early in the fight. Mouth opened as early as the 5th round.

              Have you tried a blood test before? You should know it has a stinging pain in your right after a blood test and it last for a day or 2 so how can you train?

              Do you see tiger woods carrying a lousy golf set? Do you see a tennis player like the venus sisters carrying a lousy racket for training? Pros need their gears, for boxers it's there arms. They should always have it in tiptop shape to perform there very best.

              So, drawing blood means a swollen arm.. Ain't that not performing or practicing at the highest level? they lose 1-2 days of quality training for everytime the are tested. Don't you think a Hair sample is better for testing coz it's none evasive and can last longer than blood and urine?

              Knowing Pac is smaller than floyd and has a light welterweight frame and as Emanuel Steward pointed out after the Mayweather Mosely fight, He mentioned that in his eyes pacman's body frame is only a small light welterweight. And goes to say Floyd has all the advantages, Height, reach and strength.

              So Who loses more in training and in the actual fight?

              If you want fair and quality training I believe a non evasive way of testing P.E.D's should be proposed. Like hair. It last longer shelf life. Even last for years they say. So if they cheat there hair will prove it after the fight. And you can always go back and check even long after the fight when new advanced checking are adapted.

              It's all about fair game. Its a brutal deadly sport both should be @ the best when they fight @ the highest level. There must be a way to have a non evasive test.
              why are you making a thread about this shyyt like it is breaking news??? I can tell that you are a pac fan that just started watching boxing.

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              • zeidrich
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                #17
                Originally posted by Spoon23
                Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered blood testing right after the fight in the locker room.

                He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1 were the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales.

                Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves, and factor in the bloody cut from a head butt made him lose the fight. But We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze.

                Knowing that he had a bad history of blood testing. He doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind. He believes he is weakened by drawing blood.

                It is enough for a fighters mental frame of mind to be messed up and leave a fighter unsure of himself coming into a big fight.

                Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? They should go in there @ a 100%.

                If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want? Having a fighter @ 80% will rob us with a great fight. Leaving us with question marks who really won.

                Have you even taken blood before? Some military men even squirm just getting blood. Some even act like little kids.

                If you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the tablespoon that they where talking about.

                Have you boxing fans ever gotten any blood before? Getting blood can pop a vain and leave your arms stiff for a day or 2. What about if it happens to pac who trains like crazy for a fight?

                You all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. It's like a soldier going into a practice or a war they need their gun in tip top shape to 'practice perfectly or go to a battlefield knowing their gear is in good shape.

                It's like in any pro sport they need the best gear the best car, as tiger needs his best golf set to train as A formula 1 driver needs the best car.

                Now, How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened? Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.

                Having to take 8 blood test in an intense training camp will defintely hamper Pac's training, if the injection will be swollen, he will practicing with a swollen arm for 1-2 days per blood test multipy that to 8 times at as to what happened to mosely.. The result is catastrophic.

                A walking zombie is what happened to mosely, a spent fighter who gassed out to early in the fight. Mouth opened as early as the 5th round.


                Have you tried a blood test before? You should know it has a stinging pain in your right after a blood test and it last for a day or 2 so how can you train?

                Do you see tiger woods carrying a lousy golf set? Do you see a tennis player like the venus sisters carrying a lousy racket for training? Pros need their gears, for boxers it's there arms. They should always have it in tiptop shape to perform there very best.

                So, drawing blood means a swollen arm.. Ain't that not performing or practicing at the highest level? they lose 1-2 days of quality training for everytime the are tested. Don't you think a Hair sample is better for testing coz it's none evasive and can last longer than blood and urine?

                Knowing Pac is smaller than floyd and has a light welterweight frame and as Emanuel Steward pointed out after the Mayweather Mosely fight, He mentioned that in his eyes pacman's body frame is only a small light welterweight. And goes to say Floyd has all the advantages, Height, reach and strength.

                So Who loses more in training and in the actual fight?

                If you want fair and quality training I believe a non evasive way of testing P.E.D's should be proposed. Like hair. It last longer shelf life. Even last for years they say. So if they cheat there hair will prove it after the fight. And you can always go back and check even long after the fight when new advanced checking are adapted.

                It's all about fair game. Its a brutal deadly sport both should be @ the best when they fight @ the highest level. There must be a way to have a non evasive test.
                evidence of a blood drained fighter....... tsk tsk tsk

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                • Spoon23
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by GT-R
                  TS, *****s arent gonna entertain your post. they think everyones body composition is the same and whatever mayweather say are facts.
                  Yup I'm just after boxing fans that are sane and rational. Not all are, but the good ones will know what this thread is all about.

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                    Manny got his blood taken 19 days before he fought Clottey..the VERY next day he was whooping his sparring partners. So cut this babying out, we (logically GROWN UPS) aren't going for it.
                    Geez brah, grow a brain.. You ain't got any lol.. Learn to analyze..

                    I know it's hard but take baby steps you will get there

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                    • Spoon23
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HyperUppercut
                      why are you making a thread about this shyyt like it is breaking news??? I can tell that you are a pac fan that just started watching boxing.
                      I never said it is breaking news lol.. You said it geez brah??? I've been in boxing since the 70's so go figure

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