Observations Khan and Ortiz

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I watched the Kahn vs Malinaggi fight and I have to say Kahn came in with a great game plan. The jab dominated the fight and really kept a slick boxer like Malinaggi off balance. After the fight you heard Kahn said they have been working on making the jab dominant and that's exactly what I saw.

Another thing that I hate is when fighters fight with their hands down. I think it's a no win situation because even if you are fast enough to carry that style out, why would you do it? It takes your punches longer to reach your opponent coming from your hip that they do from your chin. Never understood why fighters do this.

Another note, I thought Ortiz looked good and fought a smart fight. I also thought he showed some serious defensive flaws. When he's in the pocket, he looks good, when he pulls out of the pocket he seems to keep his hands down and gets caught with punches going away. I'm sure his corner has worked on this and to me it just seems like a very bad habit.

If Kahn can stay fundamentally sound, he can really be a player at 140lbs because of his power, length and speed.

[D-MiZe]

Khan.

[JBell11]

I watched the Kahn vs Malinaggi fight and I have to say Kahn came in with a great game plan. The jab dominated the fight and really kept a slick boxer like Malinaggi off balance. After the fight you heard Kahn said they have been working on making the jab dominant and that's exactly what I saw.

Another thing that I hate is when fighters fight with their hands down. I think it's a no win situation because even if you are fast enough to carry that style out, why would you do it? It takes your punches longer to reach your opponent coming from your hip that they do from your chin. Never understood why fighters do this.

Another note, I thought Ortiz looked good and fought a smart fight. I also thought he showed some serious defensive flaws. When he's in the pocket, he looks good, when he pulls out of the pocket he seems to keep his hands down and gets caught with punches going away. I'm sure his corner has worked on this and to me it just seems like a very bad habit.

If Kahn can stay fundamentally sound, he can really be a player at 140lbs because of his power, length and speed.

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I thought both fighters fought impressively.Both Kahn and Ortiz looked very technically sound, despite a few flaws, but to your point can be improved upon.

Kahn did a good job good strong jab, hands up high, good speed; however I notice he likes to rest his elbow behind the head when the other is ducking. That was annoying.

Ortiz had great movement, it was a great plan for an old(er) fighter, he did get a little "big headed" dropping his hands and such. Ortiz needs at least two more fights to gain his confidence, and NOT forget the fundamentals.

[IMDAZED]

What's funny is that Ortiz has a better chin than Khan but Khan seems to have a bigger set of cojones. Something is missing in Ortiz--I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a shame because the kid has all the skill.

[JBell11]

What's funny is that Ortiz has a better chin than Khan but Khan seems to have a bigger set of cojones. Something is missing in Ortiz--I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a shame because the kid has all the skill.

I agree, I want to like Ortiz...but because of the Maidana fight...it's harder. But as I said before...two or three fights to gain confidence, and fight SMART fights he will be great.

[IMDAZED]

I agree, I want to like Ortiz...but because of the Maidana fight...it's harder. But as I said before...two or three fights to gain confidence, and fight SMART fights he will be great.

I agree. I just don't know if he'll ever have that fire; that passion. Doesn't seem like it's in him. And not just because of the Maidana bout, but just his attitude to fighting. It manifests in the ring.

[Patrick Bateman]

What's funny is that Ortiz has a better chin than Khan but Khan seems to have a bigger set of cojones. Something is missing in Ortiz--I can't quite put my finger on it. It's a shame because the kid has all the skill.

Ortiz is fighting with caution now. There is something of a lack of confidence in him. The killer instinct doesn't seem to be there anymore. The "viscous" isn't there.

[JBell11]

Ortiz is fighting with caution now. There is something of a lack of confidence in him. The killer instinct doesn't seem to be there anymore. The "viscous" isn't there.

Agree with both you guys (IMDAZED).

Victor "I'm very cautious, but I'll try to put on a good show without getting hurt" Ortiz

lol

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Agree with both you guys (IMDAZED).

Victor "I'm very cautious, but I'll try to put on a good show without getting hurt" Ortiz

lol

I don't know if you can go that far. I think it would have been ****** of him to stand and trade with Campbell simply because he would have given Campbell the best opportunity to win in that scenario.

If he would have done that he would have been criticized for fighting "******". He did the right thing, I just hate the way he pulls back and drops both his hands almost to his hips. It doesn't make any sense and I think that it's just a bad habit of his.

[JBell11]

I don't know if you can go that far. I think it would have been ****** of him to stand and trade with Campbell simply because he would have given Campbell the best opportunity to win in that scenario.

If he would have done that he would have been criticized for fighting "******". He did the right thing, I just hate the way he pulls back and drops both his hands almost to his hips. It doesn't make any sense and I think that it's just a bad habit of his.

Well, he did fight cautious. There is nothing wrong with that. He fought a very technical fight. I was just making an exagerrated point that he is cautious (which is a good thing).

Don't worry bro, I'm not taking anything away from Ortiz. I just expect more from him.