How is Haye ducking Wlad? Vitali is the tougher match-up.

[Mr. Philadel]

Vitali is tougher and stronger.... but he's the less mobile of the 2, the MORE robotic of the 2, the slowest of the 2, and the oldest of the 2.....anybody who isn't gassed by Vitali beatin up punchin' bags instead of ACTUAL HW stylistic problems such as Chaguev, Thompson and Chambers...then you would know that Vitali is the more beatable of the bros....Haye's mobility and speed gets over on the less technichal and less skilled of the bros......who happens to be Vitali ....Wlad murders him....EASY!!

[Ray*]

im losing patience with haye, i understand vitali has got a fight already, i understand wlad has not, and wants to fight haye as shown with that video he did. why is it so hard for haye to fight them? surely haye must of seen that vid wlad did, wouldnt you want to shut him up?

Apart from the Video that was released by Wlad am frustrated with Haye too why? Because he started all these by walking up to Wlad and challenging him.. So yes in a way the Wlad-Haye fight has more fire to it, But i wouldnt mind him fighting Vitali...But thats if he sign up to fight Vitali next, I really dont want to hear any excuse from Haye about a contract or whatnot.

But since Vitali is fighting sooo soon i dont mind him waiting to fight Vitali.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Vitali is tougher and stronger.... but he's the less mobile of the 2, the MORE robotic of the 2, the slowest of the 2, and the oldest of the 2.....anybody who isn't gassed by Vitali beatin up punchin' bags instead of ACTUAL HW stylistic problems such as Chaguev, Thompson and Chambers...then you would know that Vitali is the more beatable of the bros....Haye's mobility and speed gets over on the less technichal and less skilled of the bros......who happens to be Vitali ....Wlad murders him....EASY!!

Wasup my dude. Look at this though.

Wlad comes to box. Vitali comes to **** and he has a tough chin to crack. I think he can beat Vitali but Vitali can crack just as much as Wad can.

[Dsanchez]

Either way we would have a unified HW champ (that's if haye can beat one or both of them). I think boxing needs that so I'm down for either fight

[mcdoodledoo]

No, I agree, he's not ducking, but the problem I have is how Haye has gone about this. He has waited until 2 days before the deadline to release this snippet of information, when he could have said this in the first place. It's wasting Wlad's time at negotiations. It seems Haye and his team are very unprofessional, which I find annoying.

But on topic to what the OP is saying, Haye can't be ducking either, as they are both the biggest threats in the division, both will probably beat him anyway, but he should be getting probs for wanting to fight the brother with the better chin first. I do think though that Haye does actually have a better chance at Vitali as he keeps his hands low, jaw open and is slower than Wlad, but Haye has to keep to a strict gameplan to win.

[fugu]

Haye: Wladimir i want to fight you!
Wladimir: Busy with mandatory, get some wins.

Haye: Vitali i want to fight you!
Vitali: Who are you?

*Haye keeps offending and pissing the brothers off, begging for attention for months*

Wladimir: Ok lets fight.
Haye: Oh.. ok sure..

*Haye injured himself close to the fight*

Vitali: Ok fight me then.
Haye: Sure...
Haye: No wait, lets get Valuev instead so i can get a better deal later!
Vitali: Sigh...

*Wladimir makes videos calling Haye out. Haye keeps quiet "because he is on vacation" (doesnt stop him from making comments about every single thing in the world except for Wladimir)*

Wladimir: So? Lets fight? Everything is set and you will get a fair deal.
Haye: But but.. you have a mandatory against Povetkin?
Wladimir: Already taken care of. Lets do this.
Haye: But Vitali is better than you. I want to fight him instead.

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**** yeah. How is Haye ducking anyone? He clearly wants these fights.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Haye: Wladimir i want to fight you!
Wladimir: Busy with mandatory, get some wins.

Haye: Vitali i want to fight you!
Vitali: Who are you?

*Haye keeps offending and pissing the brothers off, begging for attention for months*

Wladimir: Ok lets fight.
Haye: Oh.. ok sure..

*Haye injured himself close to the fight*

Vitali: Ok fight me then.
Haye: Sure...
Haye: No wait, lets get Valuev instead so i can get a better deal later!
Vitali: Sigh...

*Wladimir makes videos calling Haye out. Haye keeps quiet "because he is on vacation" (doesnt stop him from making comments about every single thing in the world except for Wladimir)*

Wladimir: So? Lets fight? Everything is set and you will get a fair deal.
Haye: But but.. you have a mandatory against Povetkin?
Wladimir: Already taken care of. Lets do this.
Haye: But Vitali is better than you. I want to fight him instead.

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**** yeah. How is Haye ducking anyone? He clearly wants these fights.

He beats Vitali has more of a bargaining chip at the tables with Wlad.

Its called the WBC Title.

[BrooklynBomber]

Nope, Vitaly is almost 40 and could have been a tougher match up maybe 2 years ago(although I do not agree) at ths point that he is a politician and part time boxer really.
Wlad is the better and much harder to fight against then Vitaly.
And besides, it ain't like Haye is gonna fight Vitaly anyway. He is a typical WBA champion.

[fugu]

He beats Vitali has more of a bargaining chip at the tables with Wlad.

Its called the WBC Title.

This is not about the WBC title (who the **** cares about titles in these megafights anyway?)
He wants to fight Vitali because "he is better and stronger than Wladimir".

Problem is he has had three chances for a fight with a Klitschko and has managed to reneg on every single one of them.
And you still think he will fight Vitali next?

Lets turn the tables. Why not fight Wladimir and have a better position when dealing with Vitali?

The fight vs Wladimir was there for him to grab. But he just didnt.

[shade darkar]

He beats Vitali has more of a bargaining chip at the tables with Wlad.

Its called the WBC Title.

Is the WBA title not enough already? this is what people were saying when he signed to fight valuev! now he has fought valuev and got the title, this fight doesnt seem any closer! Also if he beats wlad, he has even more titles than what he would get by beating vitali and all the bargaining he needs.